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It doesn't have to be like this though. Actors and others who work on sets with David Lynch always talk about how wonderful he is to work with and how well he t

It doesn't have to be like this though. Actors and others who work on sets with David Lynch always talk about how wonderful he is to work with and how well he treats everyone. And he is also a man with singularity of vision who does things his way.

kman82 3y ago
Lynch is good. But comparing him to Kubrick is like chalk and cheese
- subsubzero 3y ago
  I like each in their own way, I may be more biased towards Kubrick as I consider the Shining one of my top 3 movies of all time. Lynch may be the ultimate auteur in making a certain type of movie or tv show that really no one else was making or thinking about(Blue Velvet, Mulholland dr. etc). Twin Peaks season 3 might be one of the best tv shows ever made(and also one of the weirdest) and its why I like David Lynch so much. Kubrick touched on that side a bit with 2001(my second favorite of his movies) but his style is much more traditional.
- jjulius 3y ago
  ... the point isn't to compare their films, it's to compare the experience of working for each of them.
  - Gunax 3y ago
    Yes. But how much of their results is due to their attitude, versus just a coincidence? I like movies, but admittedly know nothing about making them. Big budget movies require hundreds of people with their own opinions working together to work towards a single vision. I don't find it impossible that demanding, narcissistic, and disagreeable people may have an advantage in that regard.
    - toofy 3y ago
      and it’s equally as possible insufferable directors make it worse far more often than they make it better. there is no shortage of absolutely elite tier directors who exhibit exceptional abilities to work well with others. in fact. on the spectrum where most coworkers “would _love_ to work with them again” to “nope, not a chance they were awful humans” i’d make a confident bet there are far more elite tier who lean towards the former.
hnbad 3y ago
Maggie Mae Fish did a very interesting long form video on this exact comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr65ZIWoD6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr65ZIWoD6c (Skip the first minute if you don't care for framing devices, it switches into a conventional video essay format for most of the video after that.)
hammock 3y ago
David Lynch's oeuvre, while unquestionably idiosyncratic, is also characterized and widely criticized for its obvious compromises. Kubrick puts the art above the artists, it's the only way
- Chabsff 3y ago
  It's not, in fact, the only way. The alternatives are time and/or money. Not having access to the resources needed to accomplish something is not a license to resort to socially unacceptable means. Now, there's an argument to be made that actors who accepted to work under Kubrick knew (or at least ought to have known) what they were getting into, which blurs things a lot in this specific case. But "It's the only way" is going too far imo.
  - geodel 3y ago
    > But "It's the only way" is going too far imo. Its going too far if industry is replete with Kubrick level work with above reproach behavior. Else I can just choose to not watch Kubrick films while stewing in my own moral superiority.
- seanc 3y ago
  Denis Villeneuve is another example of a universally loved director, and he is not often criticized for obvious compromises. Villeneuve's good friend Christopher Nolan presents as a bit more of a prickly pear, but he has a very long list of long-time collaborators on both sides of the camera so he's probably not that bad. In fact, more than a few of those behind-the-scenes folks collaborate with both Villeneuve and Nolan. It would be interesting to hear them compare an contrast.
  - hammock 3y ago
    Not sure I'm following on Denis, his most loved movies are all remakes of singular masterpieces (Dune, Sicario, Blade Runner)
    - 3y ago
wil421 3y ago
Who is David Lynch? I don’t have to ask myself the same question about Stanley Kubrick.
- soperj 3y ago
  That says more about you than it does about David Lynch.
- jazzyjackson 3y ago
  I guess Lynch has his fans but I just looked up a list of his work and haven't seen any of it, to me he's the Transcendental Meditation guy who played a pretty funny role in Louis CK's TV show.
bojan 3y ago
Lynch gave silent treatment to Patrick Stewart on the set of Dune, making him very aware that he didn't agree with him being cast. According to Patrick, that is part of the reason he's unhappy with the performance he delivered for that movie.

kman82 3y ago

Lynch is good. But comparing him to Kubrick is like chalk and cheese

subsubzero 3y ago
I like each in their own way, I may be more biased towards Kubrick as I consider the Shining one of my top 3 movies of all time. Lynch may be the ultimate auteur in making a certain type of movie or tv show that really no one else was making or thinking about(Blue Velvet, Mulholland dr. etc). Twin Peaks season 3 might be one of the best tv shows ever made(and also one of the weirdest) and its why I like David Lynch so much. Kubrick touched on that side a bit with 2001(my second favorite of his movies) but his style is much more traditional.
jjulius 3y ago
... the point isn't to compare their films, it's to compare the experience of working for each of them.
- Gunax 3y ago
  Yes. But how much of their results is due to their attitude, versus just a coincidence? I like movies, but admittedly know nothing about making them. Big budget movies require hundreds of people with their own opinions working together to work towards a single vision. I don't find it impossible that demanding, narcissistic, and disagreeable people may have an advantage in that regard.
  - toofy 3y ago
    and it’s equally as possible insufferable directors make it worse far more often than they make it better. there is no shortage of absolutely elite tier directors who exhibit exceptional abilities to work well with others. in fact. on the spectrum where most coworkers “would _love_ to work with them again” to “nope, not a chance they were awful humans” i’d make a confident bet there are far more elite tier who lean towards the former.

hnbad 3y ago

Maggie Mae Fish did a very interesting long form video on this exact comparison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr65ZIWoD6c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr65ZIWoD6c (Skip the first minute if you don't care for framing devices, it switches into a conventional video essay format for most of the video after that.)

hammock 3y ago

David Lynch's oeuvre, while unquestionably idiosyncratic, is also characterized and widely criticized for its obvious compromises. Kubrick puts the art above the artists, it's the only way

Chabsff 3y ago
It's not, in fact, the only way. The alternatives are time and/or money. Not having access to the resources needed to accomplish something is not a license to resort to socially unacceptable means. Now, there's an argument to be made that actors who accepted to work under Kubrick knew (or at least ought to have known) what they were getting into, which blurs things a lot in this specific case. But "It's the only way" is going too far imo.
- geodel 3y ago
  > But "It's the only way" is going too far imo. Its going too far if industry is replete with Kubrick level work with above reproach behavior. Else I can just choose to not watch Kubrick films while stewing in my own moral superiority.
seanc 3y ago
Denis Villeneuve is another example of a universally loved director, and he is not often criticized for obvious compromises. Villeneuve's good friend Christopher Nolan presents as a bit more of a prickly pear, but he has a very long list of long-time collaborators on both sides of the camera so he's probably not that bad. In fact, more than a few of those behind-the-scenes folks collaborate with both Villeneuve and Nolan. It would be interesting to hear them compare an contrast.
- hammock 3y ago
  Not sure I'm following on Denis, his most loved movies are all remakes of singular masterpieces (Dune, Sicario, Blade Runner)
  - 3y ago

wil421 3y ago

Who is David Lynch? I don’t have to ask myself the same question about Stanley Kubrick.

soperj 3y ago
That says more about you than it does about David Lynch.
jazzyjackson 3y ago
I guess Lynch has his fans but I just looked up a list of his work and haven't seen any of it, to me he's the Transcendental Meditation guy who played a pretty funny role in Louis CK's TV show.

bojan 3y ago

Lynch gave silent treatment to Patrick Stewart on the set of Dune, making him very aware that he didn't agree with him being cast. According to Patrick, that is part of the reason he's unhappy with the performance he delivered for that movie.