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you changed my mind successfully thank you but what about dumb phones from late 2000s like my Samsung Alias 2? what kind of sick bastard would make zero days f

by spxneo 3y ago

you changed my mind successfully thank you but what about dumb phones from late 2000s like my Samsung Alias 2? what kind of sick bastard would make zero days for this

1oooqooq 3y ago
for those you don't need 0days. you can use 360*20days just fine. it's like there was any firmware update for them ever.
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consumer451 3y ago
I can never pass up an opportunity to mention Justine Haupt’s Rotary Un-Smartphone. Buy: https://skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html https://skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html Story: https://www.justine-haupt.com/rotarycellphoneinfo/index.html https://www.justine-haupt.com/rotarycellphoneinfo/index.html Edit: wait, was she not able to get it certified? Does it really say it won’t connect to a US network? Oh, > This is a regulatory approval issue which will take time to resolve.
- spxneo 3y ago
  weird why wouldn't it work with US networks...but works in other countries? not sure about the rotary thing that looks cool tho
user_7832 3y ago
Happy to be able to help! If we’re talking about having the microphone tapped etc, I don’t think anyone would still be developing 0-days for such old phones. If you want to be safer (assuming fear of old software having unpatched vulnerabilities) Nokia launched a dumb phone not too long ago. However… GSM networks and cell tower level tracking is much harder/almost impossible to escape short of throwing away your phone. SMSes can be hijacked, hostile agents can force downgrade the connection to 3G/2g to break encryption (iirc, please correct me if wrong), and your location is generally known to your service provider and Uncle Sam. Plus… the SIM card is its own mini computer, and lots of the firmware between that and the telephony modules is proprietary and closed source. If you’re familiar with intel ME you have an idea of what I’m talking about. Honestly, if you’re not a journalist going after big names, or a top CEO/president etc you likely don’t need to worry about any of these. But if you are, or just want to be privacy conscious, your best bet is to never use cell towers and only use Wi-Fi/internet from public or untraceable places; along with Wi-Fi calling for telephony. Btw I’m not sure but I think Google fi and a few carriers/MVNOs offer virtual numbers, which can be a good first step for privacy.

by spxneo 3y ago

you changed my mind successfully thank you but what about dumb phones from late 2000s like my Samsung Alias 2? what kind of sick bastard would make zero days for this

1oooqooq 3y ago

for those you don't need 0days. you can use 360*20days just fine. it's like there was any firmware update for them ever.

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consumer451 3y ago

I can never pass up an opportunity to mention Justine Haupt’s Rotary Un-Smartphone. Buy: https://skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html https://skysedge.com/telecom/RUSP/index.html Story: https://www.justine-haupt.com/rotarycellphoneinfo/index.html https://www.justine-haupt.com/rotarycellphoneinfo/index.html Edit: wait, was she not able to get it certified? Does it really say it won’t connect to a US network? Oh, > This is a regulatory approval issue which will take time to resolve.

spxneo 3y ago
weird why wouldn't it work with US networks...but works in other countries? not sure about the rotary thing that looks cool tho

user_7832 3y ago

Happy to be able to help! If we’re talking about having the microphone tapped etc, I don’t think anyone would still be developing 0-days for such old phones. If you want to be safer (assuming fear of old software having unpatched vulnerabilities) Nokia launched a dumb phone not too long ago. However… GSM networks and cell tower level tracking is much harder/almost impossible to escape short of throwing away your phone. SMSes can be hijacked, hostile agents can force downgrade the connection to 3G/2g to break encryption (iirc, please correct me if wrong), and your location is generally known to your service provider and Uncle Sam. Plus… the SIM card is its own mini computer, and lots of the firmware between that and the telephony modules is proprietary and closed source. If you’re familiar with intel ME you have an idea of what I’m talking about. Honestly, if you’re not a journalist going after big names, or a top CEO/president etc you likely don’t need to worry about any of these. But if you are, or just want to be privacy conscious, your best bet is to never use cell towers and only use Wi-Fi/internet from public or untraceable places; along with Wi-Fi calling for telephony. Btw I’m not sure but I think Google fi and a few carriers/MVNOs offer virtual numbers, which can be a good first step for privacy.