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Total clowns. These are the same greedy executives that can't wait to fire as many humans as possible and replace them with generative AI trash. > Rivkin claim

Total clowns. These are the same greedy executives that can't wait to fire as many humans as possible and replace them with generative AI trash. > Rivkin claimed that in the US, piracy "steals hundreds of thousands of jobs from workers and tens of billions of dollars from our economy, including more than one billion in theatrical ticket sales."

darth_avocado 3y ago
What steals hundreds of thousands of jobs and tens of billions are movie executives who make terrible movies and continuously abuse workers by underpaying them all the while enriching themselves with million dollar salaries.
skyyler 3y ago
Theoretical ticket sales, what a joke. I was never a fan of the cinema so if I do happen to pirate a movie it certainly isn't a "lost sale"
- mindslight 3y ago
  I'm an unapologetic piracy advocate, but the one time I skipped meeting up with friends to see a movie and downloaded a camrip instead, I deeply regretted the experience. The idea that piracy is a substitute for movie theaters is preposterous. It's a competitor to bluray purchases and gimmicky streaming, sure. But not theaters.
  - dmd 3y ago
    I don’t think you telling your friends “nah I don’t want to hang out with you, I’d rather stay home by myself” has any bearing on the relative merits of piracy
    - mindslight 3y ago
      Was this comment meant as anything more than some kind of weird knock? It was more like "I don't want to interrupt the project I'm in the middle of, drive a few hours, and spend this weekend in the city", but sure. I mentioned the social aspect because to me that is one of the main draws of the movie theater. It's almost as bad as if a record exec said that music piracy kills the demand for live concerts. (Although I do cringe from likening movie theaters to concert venues)
  - pokerface_86 3y ago
    then your home theatre setup isn’t great (or you’re comparing it to a PLF experience). a large oled and good speakers is dare i say better than 99% of poorly maintained theatre screens.
    - mindslight 3y ago
      I said camrip. It wasn't about my home setup being marginally worse or better than the theater. Rather it's because the file I was watching was made with a video camera on a tripod in a movie theater. It had subtle problems throughout the movie, like the audio cutting out a bit, or random voices talking, or weird shadow. Not all the time, just little bits that ruined the experience at the wrong moments. Larger point being that mass piracy is really about the inevitability of independent distribution once studios have released things in widely available digital formats. Studios could play their cards closer to the vest longer - theaters already have that whole trusted hardware chain they want to force upon everybody. But if anything they've been moving post-theater-format release dates sooner and sooner.
      - taskforcegemini 3y ago
        I don't care for 4k quality, but you'd have to be pretty desperate to watch a camrip. there is piracy in proper formats

darth_avocado 3y ago

What steals hundreds of thousands of jobs and tens of billions are movie executives who make terrible movies and continuously abuse workers by underpaying them all the while enriching themselves with million dollar salaries.

skyyler 3y ago

Theoretical ticket sales, what a joke. I was never a fan of the cinema so if I do happen to pirate a movie it certainly isn't a "lost sale"

mindslight 3y ago
I'm an unapologetic piracy advocate, but the one time I skipped meeting up with friends to see a movie and downloaded a camrip instead, I deeply regretted the experience. The idea that piracy is a substitute for movie theaters is preposterous. It's a competitor to bluray purchases and gimmicky streaming, sure. But not theaters.
- dmd 3y ago
  I don’t think you telling your friends “nah I don’t want to hang out with you, I’d rather stay home by myself” has any bearing on the relative merits of piracy
  - mindslight 3y ago
    Was this comment meant as anything more than some kind of weird knock? It was more like "I don't want to interrupt the project I'm in the middle of, drive a few hours, and spend this weekend in the city", but sure. I mentioned the social aspect because to me that is one of the main draws of the movie theater. It's almost as bad as if a record exec said that music piracy kills the demand for live concerts. (Although I do cringe from likening movie theaters to concert venues)
- pokerface_86 3y ago
  then your home theatre setup isn’t great (or you’re comparing it to a PLF experience). a large oled and good speakers is dare i say better than 99% of poorly maintained theatre screens.
  - mindslight 3y ago
    I said camrip. It wasn't about my home setup being marginally worse or better than the theater. Rather it's because the file I was watching was made with a video camera on a tripod in a movie theater. It had subtle problems throughout the movie, like the audio cutting out a bit, or random voices talking, or weird shadow. Not all the time, just little bits that ruined the experience at the wrong moments. Larger point being that mass piracy is really about the inevitability of independent distribution once studios have released things in widely available digital formats. Studios could play their cards closer to the vest longer - theaters already have that whole trusted hardware chain they want to force upon everybody. But if anything they've been moving post-theater-format release dates sooner and sooner.
    - taskforcegemini 3y ago
      I don't care for 4k quality, but you'd have to be pretty desperate to watch a camrip. there is piracy in proper formats