> You can call them whatever you want, but once you've called them something, their order matters, which was my original retort. Right and different "local cul

> You can call them whatever you want, but once you've called them something, their order matters, which was my original retort. Right and different "local cultures" in Flatland call them different things, so the order matters. Orientation is a red herring. The same issue appears in 2-D manifolds inhabited by 1-D sub manifolds that one day "discover" the "other" dimension.