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Are these northerners or southerners? Who are the "ruling elite" of Vietnam? In South Korea, one particular region has produced 20 out of 22 presidents.
by spxneo 3y ago
Are these northerners or southerners? Who are the "ruling elite" of Vietnam?
In South Korea, one particular region has produced 20 out of 22 presidents.
- alephnerd 3y ago> ruling elite There are 4 main factions: Northern VCP - the original VCP founded by Ho Chi Minh, and ruled Hanoi since 1956. The current GenSec of the Vietnamese Politburo is from this faction and from that era. Southern VCP - the more business minded and ethnic Chinese/Hoa cadre of the VCP. The last president and most of the purged cadre are from this group. PAVN - the Vietnamese Army. they have been mollified by being given control of all the key sectors of the Vietnamese economy. Viettel (Vietnam's Telco) is owned by them and VinGroup's founder and CEO is the son of PAVN royalty MPS - Vietnam's KGB. they hold the actual cards in Vietnam. whenever you go to any town, village, or city in Vietnam the biggest building is always the MPS building (even the local VCP's building is smaller). The SCB chick was close with the Southern VCP faction, as was most of the leadership in Vietnam from 2012ish-2022. Due to the COVID slowdown and public anger against corruption, the Northern VCP decided to step in and cut the oligarchs and business minded types back to the ground. The PAVN kept out of this fray because they're making a lot of money, and the MPS backed the Northern faction.
- spxneo 3y agoi would definitely watch netflix series on this, its fascinating!
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- refurb 3y ago> MPS - Vietnam's KGB. they hold the actual cards in Vietnam. whenever you go to any town, village, or city in Vietnam the biggest building is always the MPS building (even the local VCP's building is smaller) I noticed this when visiting. Go through a smaller town and you'll see old beat up buildings from decades ago, beat to crap roads or just unpaved, a bunch of small stores and restaurants, then suddenly a massive property (10-20x the side of a typical home lot) with a massive parking lot, fancy imaculate building that looks like it's pressure washed every morning and look up and it's the MPS. You can pretty clearly see who has the money.
- gottorf 3y agoThe region in question (Gyeongsang-do, split into two provinces in modern South Korean administration) was also the home ground of the Kingdom of Silla, which was arguably the first polity that unified the Korean peninsula, almost 1400 years ago. It shows how sticky these things can be.
- spxneo 3y agoSilla (East, Gyeongsangdo) destroyed Baekje (West, Jeollado) forcing migration en masse to Japan around mid 6th century then they finished off the militarily superior Goguryeo (North Korea) with the help of Tang (China) to create a single state for the first time. immediately started attacking Tang to reclaim old borders Election results from yesterday reflect regionalism. Gyeongsang-do always votes conservative right, pro-US, pro-economy and Jeolla-do always votes socialist left, pro-China/NK/Russia with a leader who was a former defence lawyer for organized crime groups including his gangbanger nephew who murdered his girlfriend and her mother after a slight. He's next in line to be the president.
- maeil 3y agoKorea has had 13 presidents. Out of those, the first 2 weren't from 경상도, 김대중 wasn't from there either and neither is the current president. 박근혜 moved out of the region to Seoul when she was 1 year old so hardly "produced" by the region. That makes for 8 out of 13, still a majority but nothing like 20 out of 22.