>do you really think Roomba is going to allow you to directly connect to your vacuum without going through them? Absolutely not, they will _never_ give up that

>do you really think Roomba is going to allow you to directly connect to your vacuum without going through them? Absolutely not, they will _never_ give up that control. This is such a strange chain of reasoning. 1. With IPv4, IoT management must go through a centralized service due to NATs. 2. With IPv6, IoT management may go through a centralized due to corporate greed. You see the difference there? This reasoning is unsound because it's more or less "we shouldn't eat because we'd choke on food". >Ipv4 is a very important protocol because it accidentally protects against casual identification from the Facebooks, Apples, Googles, Amazons, etc Coincidentally, if the world is stuck on IPv4 then hobbyists/"privacyists" will be the group of people who are hurt the most. Hosting a service is becoming more difficult when CGNAT is imposed on everyone, everywhere. It shouldn't be difficult to imagine a future (as a matter of fact, it is happening now) when, to host a server, you _must_ rent a VPS or something from the tech companies since it's impossible to do it from home. Does your VPS provider allow you to host Tor services? Run BitTorrrent?