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So that means, let me get this right, the real you is the one that likes to make cruel remarks and practice being hurtful any chance you get? Do I have it right

So that means, let me get this right, the real you is the one that likes to make cruel remarks and practice being hurtful any chance you get? Do I have it right? I like to think I can be decent even when not required to, even when it won't come back to me.

corobo 3y ago
Internet rule: if a comment starts with "So" it's going to be the least charitable version of what you said, haha. Nah. If I were reviewing something without having been given the instruction "please be truthful, I need to make this perfect" or similar, I would default to encouraging the skill rather than trying to help perfect the output. In doing so I would overlook minor issues that will iron out with experience across multiple works. If the person was submitting the result to a competition or something and asked my opinion on that specific work, then my approach would be different. Not cruel and hurtful, course not, I'd just mention things that would otherwise be annoying and petty to bring up. In the case of pre-sapient AI, it won't hurt (and may even be helpful to the relevant dev) to point out where it's tripping over into uncanny valley. There's no benefit to encouragement in this situation as it's not learning a skill, it is trying to replicate the output of one.
- JoeAltmaier 3y ago
  Fair enough. I remain convinced, struggling to complain about the quality of the song in unflattering terms is vacuous commenting. I wonder why people want to do that at all.
ryukoposting 3y ago
Huh? The commenter explicitly states their compassion for a human person would compel them to be nice about an obviously bad song. If the "real me" is a person who can perceive the difference between good and bad things, and also show a bit of decency about it, then yeah, I'd like that to be the "real me." Feigning liking something to be polite doesn't make the thing good, and that doesn't mean anyone is an asshole either. Ugh.

corobo 3y ago

Internet rule: if a comment starts with "So" it's going to be the least charitable version of what you said, haha. Nah. If I were reviewing something without having been given the instruction "please be truthful, I need to make this perfect" or similar, I would default to encouraging the skill rather than trying to help perfect the output. In doing so I would overlook minor issues that will iron out with experience across multiple works. If the person was submitting the result to a competition or something and asked my opinion on that specific work, then my approach would be different. Not cruel and hurtful, course not, I'd just mention things that would otherwise be annoying and petty to bring up. In the case of pre-sapient AI, it won't hurt (and may even be helpful to the relevant dev) to point out where it's tripping over into uncanny valley. There's no benefit to encouragement in this situation as it's not learning a skill, it is trying to replicate the output of one.

JoeAltmaier 3y ago
Fair enough. I remain convinced, struggling to complain about the quality of the song in unflattering terms is vacuous commenting. I wonder why people want to do that at all.

ryukoposting 3y ago

Huh? The commenter explicitly states their compassion for a human person would compel them to be nice about an obviously bad song. If the "real me" is a person who can perceive the difference between good and bad things, and also show a bit of decency about it, then yeah, I'd like that to be the "real me." Feigning liking something to be polite doesn't make the thing good, and that doesn't mean anyone is an asshole either. Ugh.