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I'm guessing people's distastefor gulf states can be explained largely by their ranking in the global slavery index [1] (three gulf states in the top ten) the g

I'm guessing people's distastefor gulf states can be explained largely by their ranking in the global slavery index [1] (three gulf states in the top ten) the global freedom index [2] (Saudi Arabia in bottom ten) and the global corruption index (gulf states are not as good at corruption as slavery or repression but they still give it a good shot). This seems more likely to me as an explanation than hating on people with different taste. Otherwise everyone would hate Japan for example. [1] https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/#the-scale https://www.walkfree.org/global-slavery-index/#the-scale [2] https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-i... [3] https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022 https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2022

zaphirplane 3y ago
Most of earth’s 8 billion people are unaware of (1) and shouldnt paint a whole region, I see only 2-3 gulf countries in the top 10 of (2) which painting the whole region for is convoluted reasoning. Not vested enough to decode 3 to see how it relates to hating a region. In summary, there maybe reasons for an informed person to have an issue with a specific government, there is no reasonable reason to hate on countries because the are adjacent to a government you dislike and lastly the individuals in a country are free to live in reasonable temperatures with their own taste in buildings
- fancyfredbot 3y ago
  I'd say that there are specific reasons to have an issue with each and every government in the region. I'll call the gulf states Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and the United Arab Emirates. Which of these would you say has a good record on human rights, personal liberty, and equality?
  - zaphirplane 3y ago
    Btw none of the points you are raising are the ones the OP has issue with. I responded to the issues they raised which boiled down to. They don’t like their taste in building or how much air con they use in 50 degree heat and a bunch of other hate spray against the ethnic group‘s wealth An issue can be found in any government, how does that move the conversation forward ?
valval 3y ago
Ah, the good old western indices that prove that the non-western world is practically in the stone age.
temp_1337 3y ago
Meanwhile, the US, Germany, and others are currently actively supporting a genocide. And it's not their first one.
- fancyfredbot 3y ago
  Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense of the original accusation.

zaphirplane 3y ago

Most of earth’s 8 billion people are unaware of (1) and shouldnt paint a whole region, I see only 2-3 gulf countries in the top 10 of (2) which painting the whole region for is convoluted reasoning. Not vested enough to decode 3 to see how it relates to hating a region. In summary, there maybe reasons for an informed person to have an issue with a specific government, there is no reasonable reason to hate on countries because the are adjacent to a government you dislike and lastly the individuals in a country are free to live in reasonable temperatures with their own taste in buildings

fancyfredbot 3y ago
I'd say that there are specific reasons to have an issue with each and every government in the region. I'll call the gulf states Bahrain, Kuwait, Iraq, Oman, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and the United Arab Emirates. Which of these would you say has a good record on human rights, personal liberty, and equality?
- zaphirplane 3y ago
  Btw none of the points you are raising are the ones the OP has issue with. I responded to the issues they raised which boiled down to. They don’t like their taste in building or how much air con they use in 50 degree heat and a bunch of other hate spray against the ethnic group‘s wealth An issue can be found in any government, how does that move the conversation forward ?

valval 3y ago

Ah, the good old western indices that prove that the non-western world is practically in the stone age.

temp_1337 3y ago

Meanwhile, the US, Germany, and others are currently actively supporting a genocide. And it's not their first one.

fancyfredbot 3y ago
Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in "what about…?") is a pejorative for the strategy of responding to an accusation with a counter-accusation instead of a defense of the original accusation.