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> People with large vocabulary and advanced language expression capabilities will be discriminated in the not so far future, because their writings looks likely

> People with large vocabulary and advanced language expression capabilities will be discriminated in the not so far future, because their writings looks likely being written by AI. So, the recipient of such a text (full of non-ordinary wording and complicated grammer) might think it's written by AI, and, hence, don't take the sender/info seriously anymore. I had this exact problem last year when one of my lecturers kept trying to accuse my of using AI to write my assignments. Worst experience ever.

theGeatZhopa 2y ago
That's absolutely bad experience. Have been a "lecturer" myself. I knew my students. After doing it years after years, I knew all the sources (*) and also have accumulated enough experience and language sensitivity to identify where the guys writing theirs and where they used the wordings of others (**) * Nowadays, the youngs can't use Google properly. Student: "Can you tell me a few sources, I didn't find anything on that topics in Internet" Me: "really? .. that's a problem! Because there aren't so many sites, indeed. Try it with the following words ... in Google and just take the three first results" (I must admit, The whole Internet is full of this topic!) ** The structure of sentences, the words used. Most of the time, they try not to use the same words for the same thing repeatedly and try to sound keen and professional - but that doesn't align with their other parts of text. So, identifying such parts and taking the overall language expression capabilities of the writer, it's quite fast possible to know whether it's a not disclosed citation of others or their own thinking. I would recognize if it's written by Generative. Just an email asking for clarification sent to the student and his reply shows the abilities and expressiveness :)
- Quinzel 2y ago
  It was my lecturers first year being a “Dr” and first year lecturing. I had years of previous study experience, 3 prior degree’s, one was a science degree and I also had a masters degree with honours - all which I obtained before generative AI was mainstream, and she kept asking me to prove my work was written by me. Including my exam. The course I was doing was a 3rd year undergrad level course which I was doing to basically fulfil entry criteria into my next master degree. I ended up hating that lecturer. I felt the assignments she set were actually too basic, and didn’t require any analysis or critical thinking whatsoever, they were just generic assignments requiring basic research skills using Google scholar, and followed a super generic format. I have to say though, when I have had to work in group assignments with other students (which I did have to do in my first masters) I was appalled at the literacy of some of the students, and an overwhelming number of them didn’t seem to understand how to properly reference something. Some of them would just write something, and then go cherry pick a reference that matched it. I had one group member for a course on supply chains, make a statement in the assignment about the impact of COVID-19 on supply chains - and used a reference on post-operative health outcomes for patients having arthroscopic procedures during the COVID-19 lockdown period. I just could not understand how someone that didn’t understand how inappropriate that is at a Masters level even got allowed to do a master - except for the fact that they could pay the many thousands of dollars in fees that the uni charged international students.
  - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
    Yeah young people nowadays can use Instagram blindly. Why even bother :) Wish you much success on your way further, mate!
gus_massa 2y ago
I teach math in the first year of the university in Argenina. A good lecturer may ask random questions about the text to guess if you have wrote it. Like: "This is a strange word, where did you learn it?" "Why do you think that [this idea in the essay] is more important than [that idea in the essay]?" Just a few random questions. Some people write better than what they speak. Some people has a background hispanic that makes them use more latin words that sound like advanced words in English. A good lecturer should make some questions insted of following a crappy AI detector of AI. (Once one of my students was using a strange method to solve a problem. I asked him and he told me that he missed the class and studied from a book. But the book used a different notation! Not cheating, just a different ook than the official one.)

theGeatZhopa 2y ago

That's absolutely bad experience. Have been a "lecturer" myself. I knew my students. After doing it years after years, I knew all the sources (*) and also have accumulated enough experience and language sensitivity to identify where the guys writing theirs and where they used the wordings of others (**) * Nowadays, the youngs can't use Google properly. Student: "Can you tell me a few sources, I didn't find anything on that topics in Internet" Me: "really? .. that's a problem! Because there aren't so many sites, indeed. Try it with the following words ... in Google and just take the three first results" (I must admit, The whole Internet is full of this topic!) ** The structure of sentences, the words used. Most of the time, they try not to use the same words for the same thing repeatedly and try to sound keen and professional - but that doesn't align with their other parts of text. So, identifying such parts and taking the overall language expression capabilities of the writer, it's quite fast possible to know whether it's a not disclosed citation of others or their own thinking. I would recognize if it's written by Generative. Just an email asking for clarification sent to the student and his reply shows the abilities and expressiveness :)

Quinzel 2y ago
It was my lecturers first year being a “Dr” and first year lecturing. I had years of previous study experience, 3 prior degree’s, one was a science degree and I also had a masters degree with honours - all which I obtained before generative AI was mainstream, and she kept asking me to prove my work was written by me. Including my exam. The course I was doing was a 3rd year undergrad level course which I was doing to basically fulfil entry criteria into my next master degree. I ended up hating that lecturer. I felt the assignments she set were actually too basic, and didn’t require any analysis or critical thinking whatsoever, they were just generic assignments requiring basic research skills using Google scholar, and followed a super generic format. I have to say though, when I have had to work in group assignments with other students (which I did have to do in my first masters) I was appalled at the literacy of some of the students, and an overwhelming number of them didn’t seem to understand how to properly reference something. Some of them would just write something, and then go cherry pick a reference that matched it. I had one group member for a course on supply chains, make a statement in the assignment about the impact of COVID-19 on supply chains - and used a reference on post-operative health outcomes for patients having arthroscopic procedures during the COVID-19 lockdown period. I just could not understand how someone that didn’t understand how inappropriate that is at a Masters level even got allowed to do a master - except for the fact that they could pay the many thousands of dollars in fees that the uni charged international students.
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  Yeah young people nowadays can use Instagram blindly. Why even bother :) Wish you much success on your way further, mate!

gus_massa 2y ago

I teach math in the first year of the university in Argenina. A good lecturer may ask random questions about the text to guess if you have wrote it. Like: "This is a strange word, where did you learn it?" "Why do you think that [this idea in the essay] is more important than [that idea in the essay]?" Just a few random questions. Some people write better than what they speak. Some people has a background hispanic that makes them use more latin words that sound like advanced words in English. A good lecturer should make some questions insted of following a crappy AI detector of AI. (Once one of my students was using a strange method to solve a problem. I asked him and he told me that he missed the class and studied from a book. But the book used a different notation! Not cheating, just a different ook than the official one.)