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> all while in the back alley local chiefs who oppose stupid and unrealistic white elephant vanity projects are executed Can you give any keywords what to look

> all while in the back alley local chiefs who oppose stupid and unrealistic white elephant vanity projects are executed Can you give any keywords what to look for to read more about this?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago
Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–2019_Saudi_Arabian_purge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–2019_Saudi_Arabian_purge
- somenameforme 3y ago
  That's not really what that was about, at all. I think most don't understand the state of Saudi Arabia. Modern Saudi Arabia was only founded in 1932, but the really interesting thing is that the founding king also had around 100 children, including 45 sons. And those sons also had tons of children. So there are thousands of direct lineage legitimate princes and princesses in Saudi Arabia, in a country of just 33 million! There is a formal succession process, but it's been regularly sidestepped for various reasons. So you basically have a real-life Game of Thrones where your family aren't your loyal and trusted confidants, but the exact people you're paranoid of. And for very good reasons. For instance one Saudi king was assassinated by his nephew (who was later publicly decapitated), then his brother took the throne, and so on endlessly.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > there are thousands of direct lineage legitimate princes and princesses in Saudi Arabia Who do you think MBS was purging in '17? Other royals. Rich royals. Competition for the throne.
    - somenameforme 3y ago
      That's exactly what I was saying. These weren't just random "back alley local chiefs" being oppressed for having different views. It was (and is) basic power struggles.
    - temporarely 3y ago
      He was purging family members who were more loyal to CIA than the kingdom. He did that and then pivoted to China and Russia. (Bandar Bush ring a bell? )That is why he is vilified. Otherwise, he would be yet another Arab autocrat and US never had any problem with those, no matter what they did. This guy is guilty of being headstrong and independent..
- valval 3y ago
  So complete bullshit -- gotcha.

> all while in the back alley local chiefs who oppose stupid and unrealistic white elephant vanity projects are executed Can you give any keywords what to look for to read more about this?

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

Here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–2019_Saudi_Arabian_purge https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–2019_Saudi_Arabian_purge

somenameforme 3y ago
That's not really what that was about, at all. I think most don't understand the state of Saudi Arabia. Modern Saudi Arabia was only founded in 1932, but the really interesting thing is that the founding king also had around 100 children, including 45 sons. And those sons also had tons of children. So there are thousands of direct lineage legitimate princes and princesses in Saudi Arabia, in a country of just 33 million! There is a formal succession process, but it's been regularly sidestepped for various reasons. So you basically have a real-life Game of Thrones where your family aren't your loyal and trusted confidants, but the exact people you're paranoid of. And for very good reasons. For instance one Saudi king was assassinated by his nephew (who was later publicly decapitated), then his brother took the throne, and so on endlessly.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > there are thousands of direct lineage legitimate princes and princesses in Saudi Arabia Who do you think MBS was purging in '17? Other royals. Rich royals. Competition for the throne.
  - somenameforme 3y ago
    That's exactly what I was saying. These weren't just random "back alley local chiefs" being oppressed for having different views. It was (and is) basic power struggles.
  - temporarely 3y ago
    He was purging family members who were more loyal to CIA than the kingdom. He did that and then pivoted to China and Russia. (Bandar Bush ring a bell? )That is why he is vilified. Otherwise, he would be yet another Arab autocrat and US never had any problem with those, no matter what they did. This guy is guilty of being headstrong and independent..
valval 3y ago
So complete bullshit -- gotcha.