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“unexpected” That is not the word I or most of HN would have used… It’s a sad state of the world that this delusional lunatic is dictator of a $1T GDP country

“unexpected” That is not the word I or most of HN would have used… It’s a sad state of the world that this delusional lunatic is dictator of a $1T GDP country instead of everyone else that understands this is a stupid idea.

theGeatZhopa 3y ago
Yes, you can mix your dislike into your opinions, but they still stay your opinions. I'm interested in the technology, in the achievements that are possible, the problem solving and solutions found to do something of this scope. It's not about lunatics or the ** arabs dictators or killers ** say what you want. For example, the need for the special sand for the concrete. Their sand, which they have plenty of, is completely not suitable for this. It's too fine. So, how this will be solved? The world could learn a lot of it - just imagine, you can use the Sahara sands instead of the special sands that need to be somehow and somewhere resourced atm. That would reduce the house building costs a lot and enable affordable housing everywhere. I'm talking about the proper way of housing, like in the story of the three pigs and the wolf. So can you explain why you dislike technology and advancement in city buildings, experiments and new learnings? I don't quite get it.
- iSnow 3y ago
  >he need for the special sand for the concrete. Their sand, which they have plenty of, is completely not suitable for this. It's too fine. So, how this will be solved? As usual, either the sand gets bought from poorer countries or outright stolen and sold on the black market. You can't use desert sand for building.
  - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
    They have a lot of rocks there. The sands are because of the weathering of the rocks. And they have a lot of sun. Which would make grounding of rocks feasible. That could allow them to use desert sand too. Or they might find a mix between traditional and desert sand.. and some special ingredients. who knows! if you never try, you won't find it out. It's a way of creative problem solving. If they build it. In the "middle of", suddenly, something is not enough, then you do have to find a solution.
- olabyne 3y ago
  But opinions don't matter here. If you are logical and factual, that city as vaporware from the beginning. You don't need the many debunks available online to see that this project is unfeasible, whether you are talking budget, architecture, maintenance or transportation.
  - theGeatZhopa 3y ago
    If your logical and factual then you don't judge it by it's feasibility. You rather take known facts and problems and try to resolve them logical - to make it better. To learn from it. It's an opportunity. Burji (highest building) was also doomed by kings and horses. Learned a lot. Next will be even higher. Budget talking is not my point. This somehow will be overcome. If not, it's not my problem. There are ways for getting money. You know it, I know it. Maintenance and transportation can't be judged right now, as we didn't see it in function. You and I don't know anything about the plans. You're speculating it will be shitty, I speculate it's possible. If you use modules. Do we have experience with modular buildings? (Yes we have..) Can we use this made experiences? (Yes..) So you see problems before they're actually emerged. That's foresee of the future. All the debunks will be wrong if the line proves the opposite. I see the same problems as you do, but I don't think their unovercomeable..

theGeatZhopa 3y ago

Yes, you can mix your dislike into your opinions, but they still stay your opinions. I'm interested in the technology, in the achievements that are possible, the problem solving and solutions found to do something of this scope. It's not about lunatics or the ** arabs dictators or killers ** say what you want. For example, the need for the special sand for the concrete. Their sand, which they have plenty of, is completely not suitable for this. It's too fine. So, how this will be solved? The world could learn a lot of it - just imagine, you can use the Sahara sands instead of the special sands that need to be somehow and somewhere resourced atm. That would reduce the house building costs a lot and enable affordable housing everywhere. I'm talking about the proper way of housing, like in the story of the three pigs and the wolf. So can you explain why you dislike technology and advancement in city buildings, experiments and new learnings? I don't quite get it.

iSnow 3y ago
>he need for the special sand for the concrete. Their sand, which they have plenty of, is completely not suitable for this. It's too fine. So, how this will be solved? As usual, either the sand gets bought from poorer countries or outright stolen and sold on the black market. You can't use desert sand for building.
- theGeatZhopa 3y ago
  They have a lot of rocks there. The sands are because of the weathering of the rocks. And they have a lot of sun. Which would make grounding of rocks feasible. That could allow them to use desert sand too. Or they might find a mix between traditional and desert sand.. and some special ingredients. who knows! if you never try, you won't find it out. It's a way of creative problem solving. If they build it. In the "middle of", suddenly, something is not enough, then you do have to find a solution.
olabyne 3y ago
But opinions don't matter here. If you are logical and factual, that city as vaporware from the beginning. You don't need the many debunks available online to see that this project is unfeasible, whether you are talking budget, architecture, maintenance or transportation.
- theGeatZhopa 3y ago
  If your logical and factual then you don't judge it by it's feasibility. You rather take known facts and problems and try to resolve them logical - to make it better. To learn from it. It's an opportunity. Burji (highest building) was also doomed by kings and horses. Learned a lot. Next will be even higher. Budget talking is not my point. This somehow will be overcome. If not, it's not my problem. There are ways for getting money. You know it, I know it. Maintenance and transportation can't be judged right now, as we didn't see it in function. You and I don't know anything about the plans. You're speculating it will be shitty, I speculate it's possible. If you use modules. Do we have experience with modular buildings? (Yes we have..) Can we use this made experiences? (Yes..) So you see problems before they're actually emerged. That's foresee of the future. All the debunks will be wrong if the line proves the opposite. I see the same problems as you do, but I don't think their unovercomeable..