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> Hating jews never went out of fashion in the muslim world. Anti-semitism is a European invention that had to be imported to the middle east. One could argue
by AndyMcConachie 3y ago
> Hating jews never went out of fashion in the muslim world.
Anti-semitism is a European invention that had to be imported to the middle east. One could argue it never went out of fashion anywhere.
- TylerE 3y agoThere’s literal anti-semetism in the Old Testament, which predates anything that can vaguely be called Europe.
- hgomersall 3y agoI'm puzzled by this... Isn't the old testament essentially the Torah? (This is an honest question, in case that needs clarifying)
- TylerE 3y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses “ According to the Book of Exodus, Moses was born in a time when his people, the Israelites, an enslaved minority, were increasing in population and, as a result, the Egyptian Pharaoh worried that they might ally themselves with Egypt's enemies.[7] Moses' Hebrew mother, Jochebed, secretly hid him when Pharaoh ordered all newborn Hebrew boys to be killed in order to reduce the population of the Israelites.”
- Tadpole9181 3y agoWhich should never be quoted as a historical reference, since: > No references to Moses appear in any Egyptian sources prior to the fourth century BC, long after he is believed to have lived. No contemporary Egyptian sources mention Moses, or the events of Exodus–Deuteronomy, nor has any archaeological evidence been discovered in Egypt or the Sinai wilderness to support the story in which he is the central figure. It's a fictional religious story about how the people who themselves wrote the story are chosen by their diety, victims of the "other" heathens, and very cool.
- TylerE 3y agoGP was asking about the texts, not history.
- Tadpole9181 3y agoNo, they said that anti-Semitism originates in Europe and you countered that the text had anti-Semitism in it. You were clearly insinuating that the text is historical and disproved their argument.
- widforss 3y agoYes? And it is basically a story about persecution of jews.
- sshine 3y ago> Anti-semitism is a European invention No, antisemitism was a thing in Rome, too. The Europeans did reinvent antisemitism several times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_antisemitism > One could argue it never went out of fashion anywhere. Both Christians and Muslims vary over time between religious and racial antisemitism. And it's never truly gone anywhere jews are a minority (anywhere but Israel). In Europe and the United States after World War II, antisemitism did become less popular.
- squiggleblaz 3y ago> > Anti-semitism is a European invention > No, antisemitism was a thing in Rome, too. Rome is in Europe. You're obviously using "European" with some meaning more concrete than just "People who live in Europe, or with a historical connection to Europe" or else you're using "Europe" with a meaning more concrete than just "The bit of Eurasia east of the Urals and north of the Black Sea". But can you clarify how, exactly, you're using it?