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> Have to train something, though. Nobody should be the gardener in a war. Most people have no martial training and never need it. It might be better to train
by wolverine876 3y ago
> Have to train something, though. Nobody should be the gardener in a war.
Most people have no martial training and never need it. It might be better to train in descalation or something much more useful, like JavaScript.
- scotty79 3y agoI think that skill of not being in places frequented by rowdy idiots is underappreciated.
- wolverine876 3y agoThe professional sports leagues educate the men who have just turned adult, are newly millionaires, and working in very high-profile jobs, on how to avoid trouble. One thing I've seen repeated: Don't put yourself in situations, or around people, that lead to trouble.
- cgh 3y agoI’d rather take the hits to the head, thanks.
- lapetitejort 3y agoYou're in luck. One is the prerequisite for the other
- golergka 3y agoPeople who write code are much more useful in a modern war than people who throw punches. Missiles don't run on martial art.
- zer8k 3y agoIt's always funny to see people touting the virtues of de-escalation and soft talk. What happens when that fails? I started martial arts long ago because soft talk and de-escalation failed. I started training martial arts years ago. Of the brawls I've been in since then, usually with the homeless or drug addled while out on the town, de-escalation has never worked. I've been in bars where you can't talk someone down. Do you know how long it took for the police to arrive when a homeless guy started a fight with me for no reason? After giving the guy what he deserved I escaped to safety to call the police/medical. They never arrived. Sobering. He ran off eventually. Which, frankly is a testament to the power of street drugs. You can't de-escalate someone who is determined to harm you. This is a fallacy promoted by people who have never had to fight. You are universally safer by knowing how to fight and never using it than not knowing how to fight at all. The correct answer is understanding the escalation of force spectrum. Always start by trying to talk some sense into them. Then, based on their next move you either escalate to physical violence to defend yourself, or lethal force if they use a weapon. FWIW BJJ and Muay Thai are the only martial arts you should ever do. Life is not a video game. The police aren't there to help you. There are bad people everywhere. It's better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.
- sharkjacobs 3y ago> Always start by trying to talk some sense into them. I think that deescalation might just not be your strong suit
- Freedom2 3y agoYeah... there's other ways to deescalate but it involves sacrificing your ego. Unsurprisingly those who can sacrifice their ego and those who think they have to train because "Nobody should be the gardener in a war." are often not the same people.
- zer8k 3y agoThe implication that it's about ego is a relatively pathetic, naive, cosmopolitan view of reality. I wish I could live in such bliss.
- NoGravitas 3y agoAlso, judgment about avoiding that kind of situation.
- 48864w6ui 3y agoIn a war you probably don't want to be a warrior either; better to be a REMF.
- golergka 3y agoDe-escalation is also much more effective when your opponent sees how ready you are for the alternative.
- wolverine876 3y agoI could see that sometimes but I don't think that's usually true. People who feel threatened are in the 'fight or flight' state; their sympathetic nervous systems is activated. They are less likely to trust you and de-escalate.