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> The United States is a representational republic. > make decisions in regards to war effort Why is that matter? USA - is not a part of the conflict > It's n

by Ray20 3y ago

> The United States is a representational republic. > make decisions in regards to war effort Why is that matter? USA - is not a part of the conflict > It's not the job of civilians to take this into our own hands It is literally the job of civilians. In this war both sides forcefully conscripting civilians to conduct the war with their own hands > When civilian does try and intervene in a war effort directly, like for example turning off communication infrastructure, that's weird So you are saying that job of civilians - is to die for what the cause big politicians seems fitting them to die for, but not to try to stop this war? > but a professional politician is someone that we've elected to handle these kinds of situations. They obviously failed > I don't know enough about the mentalities of the Ukrainian people to say one way or another. Banned men's leaving, forcefull conscription and cancelled elections speaks for themselves

tombert 3y ago
> Why is that matter? USA - is not a part of the conflict Yes but Elon Musk is a US citizen, which is why I brought it up. > It is literally the job of civilians. In this war both sides forcefully conscripting civilians to conduct the war with their own hands I'm against forced conscriptions in any capacity regardless. That doesn't justify Elon injecting himself into the conflict. > So you are saying that job of civilians - is to die for what the cause big politicians seems fitting them to die for, but not to try to stop this war? Elon isn't at any risk of dying from the Ukraine conflict, so it's not an apples to apples comparison, but I generally don't think civilians should be the ones to stop or start wars. > They obviously failed It's a complicated situation, so I don't really know how you define "failure". Moreover, there's no reason to think that Elon knows better. > Banned men's leaving, forcefull conscription and cancelled elections speaks for themselves I agree that all those things are bad, but I have no idea why it's Elon's job to stop it.

by Ray20 3y ago

tombert 3y ago

> Why is that matter? USA - is not a part of the conflict Yes but Elon Musk is a US citizen, which is why I brought it up. > It is literally the job of civilians. In this war both sides forcefully conscripting civilians to conduct the war with their own hands I'm against forced conscriptions in any capacity regardless. That doesn't justify Elon injecting himself into the conflict. > So you are saying that job of civilians - is to die for what the cause big politicians seems fitting them to die for, but not to try to stop this war? Elon isn't at any risk of dying from the Ukraine conflict, so it's not an apples to apples comparison, but I generally don't think civilians should be the ones to stop or start wars. > They obviously failed It's a complicated situation, so I don't really know how you define "failure". Moreover, there's no reason to think that Elon knows better. > Banned men's leaving, forcefull conscription and cancelled elections speaks for themselves I agree that all those things are bad, but I have no idea why it's Elon's job to stop it.