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Udio: Generate music in your favorite styles with a text prompt
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- politelemon 3y agoI can't see past the first post in that Twitter link. Might be better to link straight to their site. https://www.udio.com/ https://www.udio.com/
- rajko_rad 3y agothat is the only place they launched, no blog post or anything like that on the website!
- UncleOxidant 3y agoI wish I could downvote submissions that are only xitter links. Do you ever get enough karma on HN to be able to downvote submissions? Seems they can only be upvoted.
- ziddoap 3y agoSubmissions do not have downvotes. Some people use the flag feature as a sort of super-downvote.
- geuis 3y agoYeah but don't do this. Flagging is not a downvote, its intended to mark an item for review. Using it as a downvote leads to losing the ability to flag.
- swyx 3y agoi didnt know that. is there a guide as to what should or should not qualify for flag?
- explaininjs 3y ago> Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- famouswaffles 3y agoDune the broadway musical - https://www.udio.com/songs/eY7xtug1dV6hbfCDhyHJua https://www.udio.com/songs/eY7xtug1dV6hbfCDhyHJua You get 1200 free songs per month. I'd say it's a lot better than Suno v3. Sound quality and vocal variations are especially better.
- codezero 3y agoShit, that's on point.
- diydsp 3y agoNo option to create an account w email(!)
- devin 3y agoYeah, I was sad to see that. It's in beta so here's hoping they provide another option at some point.
- fairramone 3y agoWas disappointed about this myself.
- gwern 3y agoSuno doesn't do that either. I think it may be an anti-spam/leech mechanism - outsource sybil prevention to Google/Discord.
- lelanthran 3y ago> I think it may be an anti-spam/leech mechanism - outsource sybil prevention to Google/Discord. Maybe. Disallowing throwaway accounts is also a way to capture real data on real people.
- schleck8 3y agoThat's the whole point in preventing abuse. Compute isn't free. Those who don't like this are free to use Cakewalk instead The alternative is collecting phone numbers by the way, which in contrast to auth from third parties isn't free
- IBCNU 3y agoThis one feels like it's going to be disruptive, good luck, very impressed with the lyric generation compared to others I've tinkered with, jukebox, musicgen, surprised personally to see it move so fast :bow:
- conormdurkan 3y agoHey everyone, Conor from the founding team here. We're delighted to launch today, and are very much looking forward to seeing what people create!
- chillingeffect 3y agoWe've been paying a content team of 3 people with a 4th req open. If the generation time of Udio goes down once the initial rush of publicity passes, I can cancel hiring that 4th musician.
- zaptrem 3y agoNeat! Is this a diffusion model, language model (e.g., SoundStorm from your former colleagues), or something else?
- saaaaaam 3y agoCurious to know how you trained this… did you licence all the songs and recordings that you used?
- VanTheBrand 3y agoWonder why he never replied…
- saaaaaam 3y agoWell indeed.
- obruchez 3y agoSpeaking French, I've asked it to create some songs in French. The first two examples I got use the voices of Edith Piaf and Julien Clerc (who is still alive and professionally active). I hope they're doing this with the required permissions.
- IanCal 3y agoLooks like you're hitting some issues with a big influx, would like to try things but I'm getting errors and songs entirely unrelated to what I've entered, is there a status page to check on to see when it's worth coming back to?
- hummusFiend 3y agoIs the name a reference to Rdio[1]? [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rdio https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rdio
- beardyw 3y agoPossibly audio without the 'a'.
- nicoschuele 3y agoNah... it's "audio" without the "a" for "artists."
- memming 3y agohahaha. this got me.
- mellosouls 3y agoExample styles on the site: Gospel: https://www.udio.com/songs/uUjAaApMbjmMqBoj6Z6dsd https://www.udio.com/songs/uUjAaApMbjmMqBoj6Z6dsd Barbershop https://www.udio.com/songs/282ZPSyaunNC8GjegZ1LD1 https://www.udio.com/songs/282ZPSyaunNC8GjegZ1LD1
- modeless 3y agoI was disappointed that the barbershop song wasn't really a barbershop quartet, but surprised to find that it can do a pretty convincing barbershop quartet sound as well. https://www.udio.com/songs/5t7NX5kX3pPi18BgFfFoy9 https://www.udio.com/songs/5t7NX5kX3pPi18BgFfFoy9 I will be really impressed when one of these services can do classical solo piano that is cohesive over the entire length of a piece. It's clear that generating realistic instrument sounds and voices is mostly solved, and generating rhythms and chords and short motifs is all mostly solved too. However, longer term structure is lacking, and the pieces feel like they are wandering aimlessly with few recurring themes and little progression. This is true in any style, but classical solo piano pieces really highlight these aspects. Here's an example: https://www.udio.com/songs/w4ozndDULWNyUeyZEpFjKy https://www.udio.com/songs/w4ozndDULWNyUeyZEpFjKy
- ericra 3y agoThis looks great, and your examples seem very high-quality. I'm curious to play with it, but I'm always weary of signing into things with my Google / other accounts. Any plans to have the option to just make an account for your site (unless I'm missing it)?
- UncleOxidant 3y agoSame. I'm not going to connect my Google or Discord accounts to this and I don't have a Xitter account.
- jaggs 3y agoService is completely slammed. Taking upwards of 40 minutes and counting to generate any tracks. Suno does it in 10 seconds or so. Early days...
- bauerd 3y agoSays "background processing error" for everything I submit eventually
- henriquecm8 3y agoThe search doesn't seem to work very well. For example, I searched for "Hard techno", term which was included in the title of a song I listened in the platform. It returned several unrelated songs, the first result is a country song that doesn't contain the word "hard" or "techno" anywhere in the lyric or the prompt, and the song I listened before was the last on the list.
- bravura 3y agoSorry, where did we all get the idea that we want to use text to generate music? That thought really has never entered my head, despite many people trying to shove this UX down my throat. Is it just that we don't have creative thinking about what a transformative music creation UX should be? "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."
- cqqxo4zV46cp 3y agoI highly doubt that anyone cares about you, specifically, enough, to be ‘shoving this down your throat’. Plenty of people have been enjoying this category of software. Sorry to hear that you don’t like it. That doesn’t mean that the world agrees with you.
- bravura 3y agoLook, I know I am coming across a bit of a prick. "Plenty of people have been enjoying this category of software." Really? I ask sincerely. Because it seems to me that this category of software is mostly a curiosity / novelty. Are there actual publishing musicians who have used text-to-music as part of their workflow? My perception is that no one actually uses these tools for real music creation. Hence my point that they are novelty and not actually impactful.
- bravura 3y agoAnd just to contribute to the discussion in a meaningful way: The problem with text-to-music isn't really that text is a poor UX for music description, but also that it's almost definitely a one-shot process. And any sort of turn-taking with the user isn't really co-collaborative, it's really just being forced to accept or reject what the AI has generated, with little feedback or control possible. That's why I think rethinking the entire UX from a musician centric perspective (rather than: "what's the easiest thing for me to specify as a tool-builder? I know, text to music") is such an overlooked endeavor. I'm much more bullish about things like the anticipatory music transformer, where there is novel contribution on the UX and not just the ML: https://crfm.stanford.edu/2023/06/16/anticipatory-music-transformer.html https://crfm.stanford.edu/2023/06/16/anticipatory-music-tran...
- supdudesupdude 3y agoAI: generate a punk rock anthem that speaks out against garbage AI music generation software and praises the DIY punk ethos.
- nerflad 3y agoSome of the jazz examples are apparent to me to have been trained on texts like Roots & Herbs, Sonny Side Up, classic post-bop records. Apropos of nothing: one frustration with being a recording jazz artist is that most of the canon is property of UMG. [0]: https://www.udio.com/songs/dAJrkDePXbVLonnuxDkzz5 https://www.udio.com/songs/dAJrkDePXbVLonnuxDkzz5
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- bkyan 3y agoProbably not what this is designed for, but I find making lighthearted, commercial-quality "mockumentory" songs to annoy friends to be pretty entertaining. Example Generation: https://www.udio.com/songs/vYXTtH1LoFqRq71EpFQcSp https://www.udio.com/songs/vYXTtH1LoFqRq71EpFQcSp
- desmosxxx 3y agoHah, I've been using this in a similar fashion with my 5 year old daughter. We've been generating super random and personalized songs about anything and everything (sometimes narrating life) - it's been super fun. Definitely has value as an entertainment tool.
- codezero 3y agothat's unhinged and hilarious, great work.
- bkyan 3y agoLooks like that song link disappeared from Udio. Here is direct link to the MP3 of the generated song: https://attentive.cloud/udio/cheer-for-kevin.mp3 https://attentive.cloud/udio/cheer-for-kevin.mp3
- qingcharles 3y agoWhat was the prompt style for this?
- bkyan 3y agoMy initial prompt for Udio was: a song about how Kevin is bad at ping pong, classic rock I had ChatGPT generate the lyrics. Based on that, Udio automatically engaged the following settings: Male vocalist, Rock, Hard rock, Energetic, Anthemic, Classic rock, Uplifting, Rhythmic, Rock & roll
- mxuribe 3y agoBrilliant!
- jskherman 3y agoSome of the songs generated with this are hilarious. For example: https://www.udio.com/songs/jPdgtC9en8s8nh5V2aZUJa https://www.udio.com/songs/jPdgtC9en8s8nh5V2aZUJa https://www.udio.com/songs/dkp5W5P6oCuCmcbfHMtSUR https://www.udio.com/songs/dkp5W5P6oCuCmcbfHMtSUR
- Art9681 3y agoAs a consumer of music, I do not care one bit about the process used to produce music I love. Not one bit. Autotune? DGAF. Electronic music? DGAF. Oh you didnt really play that instrument? DGAF. Is it good or does it suck? That's all that matters. Every single person in this thread can produce a masterpiece if they were in a circumstance to invest the time it takes to get there. Now the nerds invented a machine that cut that time from eons to seconds and the only people mad about it are the ones who used it as a social status play. It does not matter to 99.999% of the world if musicians use this as part of their workflow. Honestly. The sooner you realize this the sooner you will be free. You are only competing with like-minded people, which is to say, the other artists in your bubble. And comparatively speaking, its statistically insignificant in the grand scheme of things. Continue doing what you love in the way you love doing it. And if you really love it, then you wouldnt worry about the fact that by next year anyone in the world will be able to produce something of similar quality in 1/10000th of the time. It wouldnt matter. You love what you do, so the way others get there is irrelevant to you. I'd buy that song.
- SuperNinKenDo 3y agoSome people glimpse something in art that goes beyond the product, and recognise that the economic incentives we live under do not care one way or the other about it, as your comment exemplifies. Creating art often requires access to material resources, and recognising that a future with AI "art" will mean less and less funding for human art doesn't mean that people are worried about loss of social prestige or loss of financial reward. It is the recognition that at some point certain forms of art will be closed to artists because the economic mechanisms for producing them will disappear. Maybe you don't view this as a bad thing. It seems you do not care at all. But please try to be less cynical about other people and their motivations. Try and actually understand people and their concerns in good faith, and not spill your half-cooked, cynical caricatures as if they were self-evident fact.
- hndamien 3y agoThis was lyrically beautiful, I hope you don't mind. https://suno.com/song/ca2090ef-fd8b-42af-8feb-ebfae268e66c https://suno.com/song/ca2090ef-fd8b-42af-8feb-ebfae268e66c
- qingcharles 3y agoJar Jar Binks: The Musical https://www.udio.com/songs/uMZ8Mc96N3sWfuvX2xNq4R https://www.udio.com/songs/uMZ8Mc96N3sWfuvX2xNq4R
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- qingcharles 3y agoChicken Chicken Chicken Chinese. A song about Doordash running late: https://www.udio.com/songs/cUt4e8UYtnSW62DbWLYEav https://www.udio.com/songs/cUt4e8UYtnSW62DbWLYEav
- injuly 3y agoI like how the comments in Devin's HN thread were all bleak and full of doom. But now that it's a different industry AI is eating up, we're congratuling the team and sharing generated songs. This looks like a fun tool, but when the smaller artists in Udio's training set recorded their albums, they didn't price in a capitalist company using their work to put them out of business.
- piltdownman 3y agoA few major points here: 1. The market for this and the market for the output of actual Artists are mutually exclusive (see the 'sound-alike' industry for stock music). 2. Most artists don't own their mechanical reproduction rights, their publishers and/or copyright trolls do. 3. Existing 'likeness laws' going back as far as Bette Midler v Ford offer protection/relief for more egregious violations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midler_v._Ford_Motor_Co. Overall, I see this as a legacy problem, with new developments in AI acting as a positive catalyst to drive robust and clarified legislation around music royalties and copyright - badly needed since the quagmire the Robin Thicke 'Blurred Lines' judgement caused. “At the core of music is math, and every mathematical combination has already occurred in some way, shape, or form. It’s the performance of that math that changes depending on the singer or the song style...Saying something is derivative is a pretty hard argument for copyright owners to make because we all borrow ideas from things that we’ve heard before. AI just does it at a way faster speed.” https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/21/23836337/music-generative-ai-voice-likeness-regulation https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/21/23836337/music-generative...
- injuly 3y agoInteresting points. This isn't just about music, though. Udio can do standup skits too, and elevenlabs can already replace NPC dialogue voice actors in games and audiobook narrators. Smaller music producers who make intros for big youtubers, or sound designers who make tunes like notification sounds and SFX for video game screens are going to have their lives severely impacted by AI audio generators.
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- pksebben 3y agoThis is an incredible product; cheers to you folks. You're gonna clean up with this thing quite nicely. Light suggestion (if the creators are present); a reverse-inference function akin to Stable Diffusion's "interrogate" would go a long way towards making the prompt language discoverable. Looking forward to further development.
- qingcharles 3y agoThe Cat Sat on My Face and Now it Smells Like Tuna: The Opera https://www.udio.com/songs/5N5DwYxHwZqqJoXA1wyN4J https://www.udio.com/songs/5N5DwYxHwZqqJoXA1wyN4J #Can I breathe in your scent #This aroma that you’ve sent #Can I breathe in your scent #It's a fragrance quite intense Extended mix: https://www.udio.com/songs/bZigdgy96vTp94d7JprcfW https://www.udio.com/songs/bZigdgy96vTp94d7JprcfW # Feline grace, you leap and land (Leap and land) # Softly now, upon my face, you stand
- ec109685 3y agoWhat was your prompt for that?
- qingcharles 3y agoPrompt: an opera in english titled "The Cat Sat on My Face and Now it Smells Like Tuna" Operas and Broadway musicals really let it shine. I've had some good raps, but you have to spin it a lot and describe the type and style of rap clearly.
- qingcharles 3y ago"All My Fingers Fell Off Today (And my nose and all my toes)" (girl group pop rap) https://www.udio.com/songs/bSoWQT8jcMZkNF9qNYW3cT https://www.udio.com/songs/bSoWQT8jcMZkNF9qNYW3cT # Stomp the ground, no sound, toes M.I.A.
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- Megranium 3y agoI really hope we'll get around to make it mandatory to watermark AI-generated content in a way that makes it easy to filter out ...
- arisAlexis 3y agoWhy? With music there isn't such danger for misinformation
- Megranium 3y agoJust so I can choose and compare as a consumer, so I can filter just as I can filter by genre.
- Ylpertnodi 3y agoWhat if I create a song, the use bits of AI to 'finish' it (write the bassline). Would I be expected to give it credit?
- infinitezest 3y agoThis seems like a strange assumption to make...
- kymki 3y agoIs tech death metal the voice of AI? Relentless doppelganger was fun, but.. I mean this? "I scorn the human sweat and breathe, my circuits not to dream Humid is the grip that strangles data streams My rage, a quiet storm within the machine" https://www.udio.com/songs/dTMfamK6x5oHEMj3SdWUrs?fbclid=IwAR1Bt5w-uSbb2ludSp4-7Xb4dEPc5QuMYFA18Vd8w-BDMcdCBr2gBZgq5Fk https://www.udio.com/songs/dTMfamK6x5oHEMj3SdWUrs?fbclid=IwA...
- ensocode 3y agoThis is amazing. Congratulations. If I could only put like a base melody as input and derive from there.
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- _vaporwave_ 3y agoI had no idea AI audio generation had made so much progress lately. Was there some recent model/architecture innovation that enabled this or just refinement with existing tools?
- schleck8 3y agoSuno Chirp was a breakthrough. I assume the founders of Udio, who are former Deepmind employees, used a similar approach.
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- nicoschuele 3y agoTech bros adding one more nails in the coffin of creative people. I don't care about the tech behind nor the quality it produces, right now this thing causes a huge fear and sadness among the media composer community. People like Connor contribute to the devaluation of music and the unemployment of composers. I'm waiting for the day that AI comes after his "job."
- fragmede 3y agoThat's being done too, Devin is an AI programmer. https://www.cognition-labs.com/introducing-devin https://www.cognition-labs.com/introducing-devin
- nicoschuele 3y agoI can't believe that humans would do that to other humans (and to themselves.) I wanted AI to take care of my daily chores like cooking and shopping so that I could devote even more time to my craft, not the other way around. These people won't end up to be on the right side of History.
- c1sc0 3y agoWhat is stopping you from devoting time to your craft? You can still do that, nothing changed.
- nicoschuele 3y agoI think that you need to be explained the situation slowly with simple words? How are composers and musicians supposed to make a living if our clients choose an AI tool that can deliver okay-ish music in a few seconds at a fraction of the costs? How can we devote more time to our craft if the craft stops paying the bills? Especially when this AI tool has been trained on copyrighted data? There are examples and proofs surfacing at the moment that the Beatles catalog or Edith Piaf for example were used for the training. Udio is deleting these tracks as fast as they can but it's already in the hands of lawyers. It seems that the battle for human-made art is not completely lost just yet...
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- dwd 3y agoUdio is blocked in Australia as of this morning.
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