> how about we work on shelter? we are. I built my place 20 years ago; from lumber i bought pre-milled, delivered to my site on a truck. I didn't hafta cut any

> how about we work on shelter? we are. I built my place 20 years ago; from lumber i bought pre-milled, delivered to my site on a truck. I didn't hafta cut any trees myself and make them into boards. The cost of that lumber (measured however) was a fragment of what it would have been 200 years ago, too. Same thing, tho. The forestry industry then could only be called "nascent" in comparison to today's. The input labor goes down but it spreads out and becomes hard to quantify compared to being able to say "one human with hand tools can turn tree into X board feet of lumber in N hours"