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Look into beans, chickpeas, TVP (textured vegetable protein, it's processed soy), seitan (wheat based, you can make it from vital wheat gluten powder), tempeh,

Look into beans, chickpeas, TVP (textured vegetable protein, it's processed soy), seitan (wheat based, you can make it from vital wheat gluten powder), tempeh, nuts and seeds for high protein and cheap sources (seitan and TVP in particular) that are minimally processed compared to fake meat products. Also, look into how much protein is actually recommended per day to be realistic about how much carbs and fat on top is fine to eat. It's not like people eat meat/dairy without a serving of fat and carbs next to it, so it should be fine to get some extra fat and carbs from protein sources then rebalance elsewhere on the plate. My understanding is if you eat enough calories with an okay diet without thinking about protein, you'll hit the recommended (non-athlete) amounts without trouble and will easily exceed them if you throw in a couple of high protein sources.

kelipso 3y ago
I'm getting the feeling your recommended protein amount is insanely low or only for super sedentary people... From that list, only TVP, seitan, tempeh has enough protein ratio. Nuts, legumes, seeds have very low protein amounts compared to carbs/fat. You'd pretty much have to eat some kind of fermented soy product every day to get enough protein through semi-normal meals, which is workable I guess though very boring.
- ein0p 3y ago
  The key tell with folks who don’t lift is they don’t know that to can be somewhat difficult for even a meat eating lifter to hit 2g of protein per kg of lean mass without also consuming a concentrated source like whey. All this “beans” stuff sounds pretty hilarious to me.
  - kelipso 3y ago
    Yeah when I was starting and heard about beans, legumes, nuts as good sources of protein and then actually looked at the protein ratio...I'd have to eat just a ridiculous amount to get a decent protein intake.
- seanwilson 3y ago
  The UK and US only recommend about 60g of protein a day for males which is easy to hit and I specifically mentioned non-althetes. > You'd pretty much have to eat some kind of fermented soy product every day to get enough protein through semi-normal meals, which is workable I guess though very boring. Althetes eat pretty weird and repetitively anyway, lots of chicken and protein shakes. TVP, seitan, tofu and tempeh are versatile, and there's plant based protein shakes too.
  - kelipso 3y ago
    Call it my opinion but 60g is way too low and adult males should have at least 90g protein. I'm not an athlete but I lift somewhat regularly and I'm trying to hit at least 120g.
    - seanwilson 3y ago
      > Call it my opinion but 60g is way too low and adult males should have at least 90g protein. For the average person that doesn't lift somewhat regularly, I think this means you're disagreeing with the health professionals from Canada, UK, US and more here. What bad thing is meant to happen if the average person doesn't eat this much protein?
      - kelipso 3y ago
        > means you're disagreeing with the health professionals from Canada, UK, US and more here. The horror > What bad thing is meant to happen if the average person doesn't eat this much protein? 60g (12% of a 2000 cal diet) is the low end of the recommended 10 to 35% protein intake by these organizations anyway. Low end is getting to barely preventing muscle wastage territory. Plenty of upsides and no downsides to taking more protein while plenty of downsides to not taking enough protein. Do your own googling I guess, not particularly interested in convincing you.

kelipso 3y ago

I'm getting the feeling your recommended protein amount is insanely low or only for super sedentary people... From that list, only TVP, seitan, tempeh has enough protein ratio. Nuts, legumes, seeds have very low protein amounts compared to carbs/fat. You'd pretty much have to eat some kind of fermented soy product every day to get enough protein through semi-normal meals, which is workable I guess though very boring.

ein0p 3y ago
The key tell with folks who don’t lift is they don’t know that to can be somewhat difficult for even a meat eating lifter to hit 2g of protein per kg of lean mass without also consuming a concentrated source like whey. All this “beans” stuff sounds pretty hilarious to me.
- kelipso 3y ago
  Yeah when I was starting and heard about beans, legumes, nuts as good sources of protein and then actually looked at the protein ratio...I'd have to eat just a ridiculous amount to get a decent protein intake.
seanwilson 3y ago
The UK and US only recommend about 60g of protein a day for males which is easy to hit and I specifically mentioned non-althetes. > You'd pretty much have to eat some kind of fermented soy product every day to get enough protein through semi-normal meals, which is workable I guess though very boring. Althetes eat pretty weird and repetitively anyway, lots of chicken and protein shakes. TVP, seitan, tofu and tempeh are versatile, and there's plant based protein shakes too.
- kelipso 3y ago
  Call it my opinion but 60g is way too low and adult males should have at least 90g protein. I'm not an athlete but I lift somewhat regularly and I'm trying to hit at least 120g.
  - seanwilson 3y ago
    > Call it my opinion but 60g is way too low and adult males should have at least 90g protein. For the average person that doesn't lift somewhat regularly, I think this means you're disagreeing with the health professionals from Canada, UK, US and more here. What bad thing is meant to happen if the average person doesn't eat this much protein?
    - kelipso 3y ago
      > means you're disagreeing with the health professionals from Canada, UK, US and more here. The horror > What bad thing is meant to happen if the average person doesn't eat this much protein? 60g (12% of a 2000 cal diet) is the low end of the recommended 10 to 35% protein intake by these organizations anyway. Low end is getting to barely preventing muscle wastage territory. Plenty of upsides and no downsides to taking more protein while plenty of downsides to not taking enough protein. Do your own googling I guess, not particularly interested in convincing you.