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This brings up an interesting partial explanation that we might be able to explore with data. A portion of the healthier and more successful rural population w

by hx8 3y ago

This brings up an interesting partial explanation that we might be able to explore with data. A portion of the healthier and more successful rural population will migrate to urban areas, while a portion of the least healthy and less successful will be stuck and unable to leave rural areas. Urbanization as selection.

lenerdenator 3y ago
To a point; there's still widespread poverty in the cities these people eventually move to.
red-iron-pine 3y ago
if they're healthy and successful why would they leave? the families with college kids of send their chilluns to school, but plenty return. and with high COL exploding in many cities, all the more reason to come home, esp. if their people are already successful in such areas
- jjk166 3y ago
  > if they're healthy and successful why would they leave? Because they could be even more healthy and even more successful, or simply just happier, elsewhere. People who can leave will always leave more often than people who can't. > the families with college kids of send their chilluns to school, but plenty return. And plenty don't. Again, those that never leave stay at a higher rate. > and with high COL exploding in many cities, all the more reason to come home, esp. if their people are already successful in such areas The more wealth you have, the less you are deterred by high COL. And COL only goes up in cities because people are willing to pay a premium to live there, often for the economic opportunities.
- hx8 3y ago
  Why do people do this? It's an observed fact that The United States is still going through the process of urbanization as a lower percentage of the population lives in rural areas compared to urban/suburban [0]. In the rural areas I am personally familiar with the population is decreasing while nearby metropolitan areas have increasing populations. Since the 18th century humanity has experienced a large concentration inside cities. Who am I to say hundreds of millions of humans made the wrong choice. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_by_sovereign_state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_by_sovereign_stat...
supertrope 3y ago
Poverty and low labor mobility feed into each other. You have to be able to afford a security deposit and first and last month's rent. And land a job that makes the move worth it. If you are providing child care, elder care, or disability care you cannot bolt to a city.

by hx8 3y ago

lenerdenator 3y ago

To a point; there's still widespread poverty in the cities these people eventually move to.

red-iron-pine 3y ago

if they're healthy and successful why would they leave? the families with college kids of send their chilluns to school, but plenty return. and with high COL exploding in many cities, all the more reason to come home, esp. if their people are already successful in such areas

jjk166 3y ago
> if they're healthy and successful why would they leave? Because they could be even more healthy and even more successful, or simply just happier, elsewhere. People who can leave will always leave more often than people who can't. > the families with college kids of send their chilluns to school, but plenty return. And plenty don't. Again, those that never leave stay at a higher rate. > and with high COL exploding in many cities, all the more reason to come home, esp. if their people are already successful in such areas The more wealth you have, the less you are deterred by high COL. And COL only goes up in cities because people are willing to pay a premium to live there, often for the economic opportunities.
hx8 3y ago
Why do people do this? It's an observed fact that The United States is still going through the process of urbanization as a lower percentage of the population lives in rural areas compared to urban/suburban [0]. In the rural areas I am personally familiar with the population is decreasing while nearby metropolitan areas have increasing populations. Since the 18th century humanity has experienced a large concentration inside cities. Who am I to say hundreds of millions of humans made the wrong choice. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_by_sovereign_state https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_by_sovereign_stat...

supertrope 3y ago

Poverty and low labor mobility feed into each other. You have to be able to afford a security deposit and first and last month's rent. And land a job that makes the move worth it. If you are providing child care, elder care, or disability care you cannot bolt to a city.