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It's a machismo built up around preventative behaviors that cost short-term money. If you're a farmer trying to compete in the last 50 years, your concern isn'

It's a machismo built up around preventative behaviors that cost short-term money. If you're a farmer trying to compete in the last 50 years, your concern isn't with the possibility that you might get cancer in 20 years from the neonicotinoids you're spraying; it's making enough money to cover expenses now. But your friend who helps you do all sorts of farm chores, he wants to wear protection when he sprays. He's spent money on this protective gear, money that could have been put towards new machinery or the mortgage. He spends five minutes "dickin' 'round" putting it on. Five minutes that could be spent spraying. Since the span of five minutes is easier for the human mind to comprehend than the possibility of health problems months, years, or decades away, you choose to value the five minutes and tell him to get a move on. When he insists, you call him a wimp. He's now been shamed out of the preventative behavior.

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jajko 3y ago
Yeah, but its still outright stupid behavior, no matter how you wrap it. And stupidity will always be punished eventually in this world (which is the only way to 'fight' it, since as we know its endless and unlimited in mankind). 'I saved 5 minutes (or half an hour, who cares) so I can die 30 years younger than I had to, yeeehaaa'. Lack of good education, or intelligence, or both.
- lenerdenator 3y ago
  > Lack of good education, or intelligence, or both. Is it? You can sum up most of a Wharton MBA with "gamble until it bites you in the ass". The only difference is, the guy with the Wharton MBA gets to pawn his mistakes off on the guy who's actually doing the work, thus evading your punishment for stupidity.
  - jajko 3y ago
    If you are an alcoholic, there is no gamble, you will ruin your life and lives of people around you and die early and most probably miserably, period. Same with say smoking cigarettes, still a popular addiction of poorer folks all around the world. It goes much deeper - children of drug abusers, be it legal or illegal, tend to very closely repeat their parent's mistakes also in this aspect, vicious circle that takes a strong personality and probably some luck to step out of. I consider it an utter failure as a parent, no nicer way around this.

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jajko 3y ago

Yeah, but its still outright stupid behavior, no matter how you wrap it. And stupidity will always be punished eventually in this world (which is the only way to 'fight' it, since as we know its endless and unlimited in mankind). 'I saved 5 minutes (or half an hour, who cares) so I can die 30 years younger than I had to, yeeehaaa'. Lack of good education, or intelligence, or both.

lenerdenator 3y ago
> Lack of good education, or intelligence, or both. Is it? You can sum up most of a Wharton MBA with "gamble until it bites you in the ass". The only difference is, the guy with the Wharton MBA gets to pawn his mistakes off on the guy who's actually doing the work, thus evading your punishment for stupidity.
- jajko 3y ago
  If you are an alcoholic, there is no gamble, you will ruin your life and lives of people around you and die early and most probably miserably, period. Same with say smoking cigarettes, still a popular addiction of poorer folks all around the world. It goes much deeper - children of drug abusers, be it legal or illegal, tend to very closely repeat their parent's mistakes also in this aspect, vicious circle that takes a strong personality and probably some luck to step out of. I consider it an utter failure as a parent, no nicer way around this.