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> Some backward people don't understand that "being isolated and doom scrolling all day" or "getting tons of destructive cosmetic surgeries" or "Amway" can also

> Some backward people don't understand that "being isolated and doom scrolling all day" or "getting tons of destructive cosmetic surgeries" or "Amway" can also be a torally fine purpose in life. I really can't tell if this is a sarcastic comment or not, so just to be clear none of these examples are examples of purpose. How one spends their time isn't purpose, it's just a description of their day.

ergonaught 3y ago
I think the main point is that it isn’t anyone else’s business how an individual chooses to spend their time. Absence some other criteria for concern, “I don’t like that they do this therefore they must stop doing it” is a line of thinking that desperately needs to be eradicated from human culture.
- _heimdall 3y ago
  Sure, though I do also think its reasonable for those who love for someone to be concerned if someone seems depressed or similar. I didn't actually read the OP as a concern focused on what their sister does, but a concern of why she may be spending her time that way. Regardless, my point was just that doom scrolling, as an example, isn't purpose. If we're collectively losing the what the concept of purpose even is we really are in trouble.
- s1artibartfast 3y ago
  I think the criteria for concern is clear, and it never was about if they personally like of the activity. The concern is because they care about the person and "being isolated and doom scrolling all day" is objectively destructive and self-sabotaging. It's not a relativistic “different strokes for different folks“ and don't judge situation. Being nonjudgemental might make sense if someone you care about is at least happy, not miserable and throwing their life away.
- Karunamon 3y ago
  There is always a other criteria for concern. Basically nobody understands their own desire to police the behavior of other people as merely doing something that they don't like.
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- coldtea 3y ago
  >I think the main point is that it isn’t anyone else’s business how an individual chooses to spend their time. Nah, it was sarcasm >Absence some other criteria for concern, “I don’t like that they do this therefore they must stop doing it” is a line of thinking that desperately needs to be eradicated from human culture. There are other criteria for concern, both empathy and concern for the invididual (other people recognizingt that living that way is destructive) but also concern for the general consequences in a society where people do those things.
coldtea 3y ago
>How one spends their time isn't purpose, it's just a description of their day. My examples were sarcastic, based on those being bad ways to spend your time. That said, I don't agree that "none of these examples are examples of purpose". Or at least I don't think purpose has to be something big, like "do great good", "cure cancer", "get rich". Those could very well be descriptions of someone's purpose, they would just be unhealthy purposes.
- _heimdall 3y ago
  Cool, I thought you were sarcastic there but just didn't want to assume. My point was only that purpose isn't what you do, its why you do it. I'd actually argue that curing cancer isn't a purpose either, its what someone is trying to do while the purpose could be a desire to help others or fame or fortune.
  - coldtea 3y ago
    I think "purpose" can refer both to the "why" and to the "what", as long as the "what" is a major "end in itself/goal" for someone. E.g. "he found his life's purpose in playing the guitar" - this doesn't answer "why" he plays guitar, but it's a common way of putting it, no? Here's another example from wordreference.com: "His purpose in life is to give a home to street cats" (again, no why, but a what.
    - _heimdall 3y ago
      Out of context I obviously can't say for sure either way, but I'd assume in either example there's a deeper why behind both. Maybe he found meaning in playing the guitar because it allowed him to share a message, or improve others' lives through song. I'd be really surprised if the actual purpose behind it really did come down to the actual act of playing the guitar. I'm probably getting too nitpicky or semantic here, sorry if I am. I do think the distinction is an important one though, a lot of problems can show up if the "what" is treated as the purpose or meaning in one's life and we forget the "why" behind it.

ergonaught 3y ago

I think the main point is that it isn’t anyone else’s business how an individual chooses to spend their time. Absence some other criteria for concern, “I don’t like that they do this therefore they must stop doing it” is a line of thinking that desperately needs to be eradicated from human culture.

_heimdall 3y ago
Sure, though I do also think its reasonable for those who love for someone to be concerned if someone seems depressed or similar. I didn't actually read the OP as a concern focused on what their sister does, but a concern of why she may be spending her time that way. Regardless, my point was just that doom scrolling, as an example, isn't purpose. If we're collectively losing the what the concept of purpose even is we really are in trouble.
s1artibartfast 3y ago
I think the criteria for concern is clear, and it never was about if they personally like of the activity. The concern is because they care about the person and "being isolated and doom scrolling all day" is objectively destructive and self-sabotaging. It's not a relativistic “different strokes for different folks“ and don't judge situation. Being nonjudgemental might make sense if someone you care about is at least happy, not miserable and throwing their life away.
Karunamon 3y ago
There is always a other criteria for concern. Basically nobody understands their own desire to police the behavior of other people as merely doing something that they don't like.
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coldtea 3y ago
>I think the main point is that it isn’t anyone else’s business how an individual chooses to spend their time. Nah, it was sarcasm >Absence some other criteria for concern, “I don’t like that they do this therefore they must stop doing it” is a line of thinking that desperately needs to be eradicated from human culture. There are other criteria for concern, both empathy and concern for the invididual (other people recognizingt that living that way is destructive) but also concern for the general consequences in a society where people do those things.

coldtea 3y ago

>How one spends their time isn't purpose, it's just a description of their day. My examples were sarcastic, based on those being bad ways to spend your time. That said, I don't agree that "none of these examples are examples of purpose". Or at least I don't think purpose has to be something big, like "do great good", "cure cancer", "get rich". Those could very well be descriptions of someone's purpose, they would just be unhealthy purposes.

_heimdall 3y ago
Cool, I thought you were sarcastic there but just didn't want to assume. My point was only that purpose isn't what you do, its why you do it. I'd actually argue that curing cancer isn't a purpose either, its what someone is trying to do while the purpose could be a desire to help others or fame or fortune.
- coldtea 3y ago
  I think "purpose" can refer both to the "why" and to the "what", as long as the "what" is a major "end in itself/goal" for someone. E.g. "he found his life's purpose in playing the guitar" - this doesn't answer "why" he plays guitar, but it's a common way of putting it, no? Here's another example from wordreference.com: "His purpose in life is to give a home to street cats" (again, no why, but a what.
  - _heimdall 3y ago
    Out of context I obviously can't say for sure either way, but I'd assume in either example there's a deeper why behind both. Maybe he found meaning in playing the guitar because it allowed him to share a message, or improve others' lives through song. I'd be really surprised if the actual purpose behind it really did come down to the actual act of playing the guitar. I'm probably getting too nitpicky or semantic here, sorry if I am. I do think the distinction is an important one though, a lot of problems can show up if the "what" is treated as the purpose or meaning in one's life and we forget the "why" behind it.