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> Good TWS headphones are better than the vast majority of wired headphones. Even not so good TWS headphones are more expensive than pretty good wired headphon

> Good TWS headphones are better than the vast majority of wired headphones. Even not so good TWS headphones are more expensive than pretty good wired headphones. > Sony's headphones have lossless Bluetooth, and so do Samsung's Unlike Bluetooth which you have to pray to god that it will pick the best codec, wired connection is already lossless. > there really is no technical reason why bluetooth headphones have to sound any worse than wired headphones. ... until you enable microphone, then it turns into a potato 16kHz mono stream. A successor codec was only finalized in Bluetooth 5.2 and I don't believe there are major earbuds that support LC3 yet.

sudosysgen 3y ago
> Even not so good TWS headphones are more expensive than pretty good wired headphones. I would expect so, it's just a more complicated and expensive product to make. Even so, nowadays the difference is quite small. > Unlike Bluetooth which you have to pray to god that it will pick the best codec, wired connection is already lossless. I don't have to pray, there is a toggle switch for lossless audio, I just have to select it. It's easy to verify which codec is being used too, it's right there on the app. And while a wired connection is already lossless, you can risk having a crappy amp on cheaper devices, and often you also have to deal with microphonics from your cables (especially those that have a mic built in). So while it can be as flawless as a lossless codec, it's not always. > ... until you enable microphone, then it turns into a potato 16kHz mono stream. A successor codec was only finalized in Bluetooth 5.2 and I don't believe there are major earbuds that support LC3 yet. Sony's headphones do support LC3 as of last week (it came in an update), but yes that's still a valid point as it's only recently being addressed.

sudosysgen 3y ago

> Even not so good TWS headphones are more expensive than pretty good wired headphones. I would expect so, it's just a more complicated and expensive product to make. Even so, nowadays the difference is quite small. > Unlike Bluetooth which you have to pray to god that it will pick the best codec, wired connection is already lossless. I don't have to pray, there is a toggle switch for lossless audio, I just have to select it. It's easy to verify which codec is being used too, it's right there on the app. And while a wired connection is already lossless, you can risk having a crappy amp on cheaper devices, and often you also have to deal with microphonics from your cables (especially those that have a mic built in). So while it can be as flawless as a lossless codec, it's not always. > ... until you enable microphone, then it turns into a potato 16kHz mono stream. A successor codec was only finalized in Bluetooth 5.2 and I don't believe there are major earbuds that support LC3 yet. Sony's headphones do support LC3 as of last week (it came in an update), but yes that's still a valid point as it's only recently being addressed.