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> I think it is a very good thing that alarms were rung about teen smoking, teen pregnancy, drunk driving, and the exposure of children to sex and violence on T

> I think it is a very good thing that alarms were rung about teen smoking, teen pregnancy, drunk driving, and the exposure of children to sex and violence on TV Excuse me? I remember sitting thru Nancy Reagan’s “good morals” which were mandated to be in kids shoes, abstinence only sex education, DARE, and the ridiculousness of not being able to buy a music album with songs they played on the radio. Teen pregnancy peaked in the 1950s and has been on a steady downswing since, with a small blip on the 90s. Kids went through covid for goodness sake. That our society has almost no way to respond to that is probably the biggest cause of teenage mental illness - shit was awful and they’re expected to keep going on as if it wasn’t! I’m also not even going to bother going into the authors willful downplaying of the arguments and evidence of his detractors, which he kindly and blithely links before avoiding any argument of substance leveled against him. This is the author of the book “The Coddling of the American Mind”. It’s deeply right wing and deeply wrong in the worst way because there is some insight to be had, but the conclusions of the authors are quite ideologically driven.

luqtas 3y ago
what pregnancy & violence has to do with mental disease? sure some correlation but it's not the staple in many cases... depression & suicide among kids/teens ARE increasing over time. now if that's ONLY because social media is another mild take, too https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414751/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414751/
- taurath 3y ago
  I was responding to the second paragraph in the original article, in which the author gives opinions on the success of other initiatives based around moral panics. If you wanna know what’s going on with kids and mental illness and suicide, ask almost any social worker and they will straight up tell you how kids don’t have any hope and often have extremely minimal support. My generation is depressed and anxious for completely reasonable reasons. It’s a rational response.
  - luqtas 3y ago
    so? sex education is still being developed by pedagogy workers... you can't skim old practices as what's now & how important that is! heck, we even have teens using vapes... i mean, who knows the benefits of some substances from the tobacco plant but if you truly think you need some of them, at least eat it, not smoke (& maybe this discernment escapes teens maturity and maybe they can't buy pure nicotine or whatever that easily) alarmism may or not causes scientists to study something... curiosity isn't always driven by popular interests and the author just cited that as an example and don't correlate those with the main topic, which in case of violent media, i think they should [0] [1] & [2] [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704015/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704015/ [1] https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-136-2-151.pdf https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-136-2-151.pdf [2] https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/cyber.2020.29205.vvg https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/cyber.2020.29205....

luqtas 3y ago

what pregnancy & violence has to do with mental disease? sure some correlation but it's not the staple in many cases... depression & suicide among kids/teens ARE increasing over time. now if that's ONLY because social media is another mild take, too https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414751/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1414751/

taurath 3y ago
I was responding to the second paragraph in the original article, in which the author gives opinions on the success of other initiatives based around moral panics. If you wanna know what’s going on with kids and mental illness and suicide, ask almost any social worker and they will straight up tell you how kids don’t have any hope and often have extremely minimal support. My generation is depressed and anxious for completely reasonable reasons. It’s a rational response.
- luqtas 3y ago
  so? sex education is still being developed by pedagogy workers... you can't skim old practices as what's now & how important that is! heck, we even have teens using vapes... i mean, who knows the benefits of some substances from the tobacco plant but if you truly think you need some of them, at least eat it, not smoke (& maybe this discernment escapes teens maturity and maybe they can't buy pure nicotine or whatever that easily) alarmism may or not causes scientists to study something... curiosity isn't always driven by popular interests and the author just cited that as an example and don't correlate those with the main topic, which in case of violent media, i think they should [0] [1] & [2] [0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704015/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2704015/ [1] https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-136-2-151.pdf https://www.apa.org/pubs/journals/releases/bul-136-2-151.pdf [2] https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/cyber.2020.29205.vvg https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/abs/10.1089/cyber.2020.29205....