Personally I never shat on php because of simplicity but because of lack of expressiveness, limited language constructs and bugs. Combined with the massive new

Personally I never shat on php because of simplicity but because of lack of expressiveness, limited language constructs and bugs. Combined with the massive new crowd going into programming with it, it gave rise to immense walls of pain (I remember wordpress sociable code source 12 screens long loops visually..). Later they started to move away from all that with PSR, typed object layer and more es6/py3 set of features.