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What you're describing sounds more socially healthy than modern usage. It was kids exploring the world digitally. Now that's been captured by digital fiefdoms a

What you're describing sounds more socially healthy than modern usage. It was kids exploring the world digitally. Now that's been captured by digital fiefdoms actively manipulating their users into unhealthy levels of engagement by any means necessary.

spxneo 3y ago
Internet before 9/11 and after 9/11 basically. What the Patriot Act did was eat at the foundations of freedom that American founders set out to create and the internet became public enemy #1 overnight, something that had to be controlled, regulated, and monopolized by American corporations in the form of social media, search engines, youtube etc. Like the rebellious soviet youths finding itself through Viktor Tsoi, the pre-911 internet offered us Western kids a brief moment of true freedom, we didn't need heroes, because our minds were free from algorithms designed to sap every bit of happiness.
drkleiner 3y ago
Internet used to be a village, with nice cozy places and communities but also shady weird individuals and houses you're not supposed to enter Now it is a shopping mall, sanitized, organized, brands and ads plastered all around, not really for socializing and community but more for products and marketing, you can still find a bookstore or a cafe but in the end, shopping mall is there to make you shop
- brazzy 3y ago
  And it's a shopping mall that has a bunch of big stores that openly sell meth, and advertize for it aggressively.
- idle_zealot 3y ago
  This interpretation is funny considering the other post in this thread bemoaning the loss of the shopping malls of their youth. As a metaphor it's on the right track, but the way the internet has been commercialized is even more extreme than a shopping mall, in the sense that experience is individually curated for each visitor and every tap, moment of hesitation, and utterance between friends is catalogued by the "store owner".
Cub3 3y ago
> actively manipulating their users into unhealthy levels of engagement Which is the root issue here, why don't we ban online advertising as a business model or significantly tax it to create a cost of x engagement

spxneo 3y ago

Internet before 9/11 and after 9/11 basically. What the Patriot Act did was eat at the foundations of freedom that American founders set out to create and the internet became public enemy #1 overnight, something that had to be controlled, regulated, and monopolized by American corporations in the form of social media, search engines, youtube etc. Like the rebellious soviet youths finding itself through Viktor Tsoi, the pre-911 internet offered us Western kids a brief moment of true freedom, we didn't need heroes, because our minds were free from algorithms designed to sap every bit of happiness.

drkleiner 3y ago

Internet used to be a village, with nice cozy places and communities but also shady weird individuals and houses you're not supposed to enter Now it is a shopping mall, sanitized, organized, brands and ads plastered all around, not really for socializing and community but more for products and marketing, you can still find a bookstore or a cafe but in the end, shopping mall is there to make you shop

brazzy 3y ago
And it's a shopping mall that has a bunch of big stores that openly sell meth, and advertize for it aggressively.
idle_zealot 3y ago
This interpretation is funny considering the other post in this thread bemoaning the loss of the shopping malls of their youth. As a metaphor it's on the right track, but the way the internet has been commercialized is even more extreme than a shopping mall, in the sense that experience is individually curated for each visitor and every tap, moment of hesitation, and utterance between friends is catalogued by the "store owner".

Cub3 3y ago

> actively manipulating their users into unhealthy levels of engagement Which is the root issue here, why don't we ban online advertising as a business model or significantly tax it to create a cost of x engagement