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This was a great read, thanks for posting it. I didn't really understand what he received so much jail time for though...

by mb7733 3y ago

qup 3y ago
He was found guilty of owning an improvised firearm that he maintains he had nothing to do with
- mb7733 3y ago
  Right. But as the article tells it, it wasn't even found in his possession; it was found with a bunch of junk in a park, along with some of his mail. Apparently his DNA was on it but then they admit there was doubt about how conclusive that was. I'm just amazed that that kind of shaky evidence could result in a 5 year prison sentence. All that aside, what the hell is a pipe gun? What exactly did they find? A length of PVC... https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/homeless-man-living-on-hampstead-heath-jailed-for-making-and-burying-gun https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/homeless-man-livi...
  - hiatus 3y ago
    From the image, that does not look to be PVC but a metal pipe. It is possible to create a firearm from a pipe that can fire shotgun shells. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJUtEnCLVUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJUtEnCLVUI
    - mb7733 3y ago
      It's definitely plastic. It's also of a much greater diameter than a shotgun shell. And, it doesn't resemble at all the device in that video. That aside, the fact that it's possible can make a firearm from a pipe, doesn't seem to me to mean that someone should do 5 years in prison... for possibly having touched a pipe... found in a pile of junk. Either there is more to this or something went seriously wrong here legally
- margalabargala 3y ago
  That's what he was found guilty. It's not what he did. What he did was embarrass the system. That's what the prison sentence was for. The piece of PVC pipe found in a junk pile.elsewhere in the park was just the excuse they pointed at.
jon_adler 3y ago
Possession of illegal firearms is a significant crime in the UK. He was accused and convicted of possessing a home made pipe gun found near the bunker. He denies it was his weapon. He wasn’t jailed for the bunker.
- mb7733 3y ago
  If you're interested see my reply to the sibling comment. There is an article with a picture of the "firearm" which is apparently a piece of PVC, of much greater diameter then any bullet. Setting aside the fact it was never actually found in his possession, this is absurd.

This was a great read, thanks for posting it. I didn't really understand what he received so much jail time for though...

by mb7733 3y ago

This was a great read, thanks for posting it. I didn't really understand what he received so much jail time for though...

qup 3y ago

He was found guilty of owning an improvised firearm that he maintains he had nothing to do with

mb7733 3y ago
Right. But as the article tells it, it wasn't even found in his possession; it was found with a bunch of junk in a park, along with some of his mail. Apparently his DNA was on it but then they admit there was doubt about how conclusive that was. I'm just amazed that that kind of shaky evidence could result in a 5 year prison sentence. All that aside, what the hell is a pipe gun? What exactly did they find? A length of PVC... https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/homeless-man-living-on-hampstead-heath-jailed-for-making-and-burying-gun https://www.camdennewjournal.co.uk/article/homeless-man-livi...
- hiatus 3y ago
  From the image, that does not look to be PVC but a metal pipe. It is possible to create a firearm from a pipe that can fire shotgun shells. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJUtEnCLVUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJUtEnCLVUI
  - mb7733 3y ago
    It's definitely plastic. It's also of a much greater diameter than a shotgun shell. And, it doesn't resemble at all the device in that video. That aside, the fact that it's possible can make a firearm from a pipe, doesn't seem to me to mean that someone should do 5 years in prison... for possibly having touched a pipe... found in a pile of junk. Either there is more to this or something went seriously wrong here legally
margalabargala 3y ago
That's what he was found guilty. It's not what he did. What he did was embarrass the system. That's what the prison sentence was for. The piece of PVC pipe found in a junk pile.elsewhere in the park was just the excuse they pointed at.

jon_adler 3y ago

Possession of illegal firearms is a significant crime in the UK. He was accused and convicted of possessing a home made pipe gun found near the bunker. He denies it was his weapon. He wasn’t jailed for the bunker.

mb7733 3y ago
If you're interested see my reply to the sibling comment. There is an article with a picture of the "firearm" which is apparently a piece of PVC, of much greater diameter then any bullet. Setting aside the fact it was never actually found in his possession, this is absurd.