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When I used to do 3, I found myself filling the time by actually being involved in the business. Talking to managers, stakeholders, trying to actually improve a

When I used to do 3, I found myself filling the time by actually being involved in the business. Talking to managers, stakeholders, trying to actually improve auxiliary concerns. Is this just not how it's done anymore?

zer00eyz 3y ago
You wanted a career... am I right? You got to CTO. You're doing number 3 as a job. Go in, do what your asked, go do your own thing. You have a network you dont need to impress your new co workers. It's just a check and your passion lies elsewhere.
toomuchtodo 3y ago
Are you playing wealth games or status games? Wealth is freedom, CTO role is still a job. What is your end goal? Work backwards from that to how you spend your time (enterprise, startup, solo, etc). Maybe it's meaningful work. Maybe it's just a check, because you work to live, not live to work. May you find a path that enables the outcome desired.
- ThalesX 3y ago
  > Are you playing wealth games or status games? Wealth is freedom, CTO role is still a job. I would ideally like to not be accountable to anyone under, or over me. Just hack away at my hobby projects like Thanos did before he got his head cut. > What is your end goal? Work backwards from that to how you spend your time (enterprise, startup, solo, etc). Maybe it's meaningful work. Maybe it's just a check, because you work to live, not live to work. May you find a path that enables the outcome desired. Thanks for the advice! Perhaps I should spend a bit more time putting things into perspective. But I was just curious to get some answers on how much time people actually work. If I can get 50% of the money I'd get running a company, with 2hrs of work per week. I'd probably take that. I'm just not sure how common it is.
giantg2 3y ago
"When I used to do 3, I found myself filling the time by actually being involved in the business. Talking to managers, stakeholders, trying to actually improve auxiliary concerns. Is this just not how it's done anymore?" Who actually listens to the devs? I've literally been yelled at for pointing out flaws pertaining to basic business acumen - "Just build it how I say!". Then we're rewriting it 3 weeks later because I was right.
- ThalesX 3y ago
  > Who actually listens to the devs? In my experience it depends on your political skills. I could always find someone in the company to help me come up with a plan of attack for a problem we were all facing. I always suggest to juniors to go to higher ups with an attitude of 'how can I help you solve the problems you currently have' instead of 'here are my problems'. YMMV.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    In my case politics weren't really a solution. You have an incompetent person who wants it done their way. The only person they'll listen to is the person above them. Go above them and you're branded a troublemaker. It's a dysfunctional organization.

zer00eyz 3y ago

You wanted a career... am I right? You got to CTO. You're doing number 3 as a job. Go in, do what your asked, go do your own thing. You have a network you dont need to impress your new co workers. It's just a check and your passion lies elsewhere.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

Are you playing wealth games or status games? Wealth is freedom, CTO role is still a job. What is your end goal? Work backwards from that to how you spend your time (enterprise, startup, solo, etc). Maybe it's meaningful work. Maybe it's just a check, because you work to live, not live to work. May you find a path that enables the outcome desired.

ThalesX 3y ago
> Are you playing wealth games or status games? Wealth is freedom, CTO role is still a job. I would ideally like to not be accountable to anyone under, or over me. Just hack away at my hobby projects like Thanos did before he got his head cut. > What is your end goal? Work backwards from that to how you spend your time (enterprise, startup, solo, etc). Maybe it's meaningful work. Maybe it's just a check, because you work to live, not live to work. May you find a path that enables the outcome desired. Thanks for the advice! Perhaps I should spend a bit more time putting things into perspective. But I was just curious to get some answers on how much time people actually work. If I can get 50% of the money I'd get running a company, with 2hrs of work per week. I'd probably take that. I'm just not sure how common it is.

giantg2 3y ago

"When I used to do 3, I found myself filling the time by actually being involved in the business. Talking to managers, stakeholders, trying to actually improve auxiliary concerns. Is this just not how it's done anymore?" Who actually listens to the devs? I've literally been yelled at for pointing out flaws pertaining to basic business acumen - "Just build it how I say!". Then we're rewriting it 3 weeks later because I was right.

ThalesX 3y ago
> Who actually listens to the devs? In my experience it depends on your political skills. I could always find someone in the company to help me come up with a plan of attack for a problem we were all facing. I always suggest to juniors to go to higher ups with an attitude of 'how can I help you solve the problems you currently have' instead of 'here are my problems'. YMMV.
- giantg2 3y ago
  In my case politics weren't really a solution. You have an incompetent person who wants it done their way. The only person they'll listen to is the person above them. Go above them and you're branded a troublemaker. It's a dysfunctional organization.