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I don't really consider new devices that don't have headphone jacks. This wireless-everything craze is so obnoxious.

hinkley 3y ago
I don't think we've cracked the design yet for no wire between the device and the earphones. I have the Shure BT2 set and I would list my relationship as "I tolerate them". It dangles, and if I wear a coat with a metal zipper it has connection issues when my phone is in my pocket. I'm not convinced the new separate ones are better. Behind the head may still be the better option, and sliding them down around your neck when you need to be social ticks a lot of checkboxes for me as well.
- kuchenbecker 3y ago
  I feel like me and everyone I know exclusively use wireless but the Internet would have me believe I'm weird.
  - hinkley 3y ago
    There’s something about having two independent Bluetooth headphones that makes them much more than twice as likely to get lost. And I suspect that part of it is having both ears blocked and thus needing to take one out much more frequently. Also there are a disproportionate number of tech people who have ADHD, and multiple small objects do not just have a high probability of getting lost, they have a virtual guarantee of doing so. Multiple times before they are lost forever.
wilg 3y ago
You may not be in the market for wireless headphones then!
doug_durham 3y ago
Craze??? Wireless has been the standard for portable electronics for almost 20 years. It’s the norm. I could never go back to wired. Too bulky, unreliable, and fragile.
- Grazester 3y ago
  Unreliable compared to wireless? ... right.
  - bmicraft 3y ago
    Nope, I've had plenty of unreliable wired in-ear headphones. When used like the wireless ones of today they lasted a couple of years at most before the cable inevitable breaks (usually near the 3.5mm connector) from always moving
    - hollandheese 3y ago
      That's why you get IEMs with replaceable cables.
  - cameronh90 3y ago
    I've had to replace my wired headphone cable 3 times in the last 5 years due to wear, unexpectedly each time. I still use them because my current AirPods don't last a full work day, but I'll probably switch to AirPods Max next refresh. I suspect my particular penchant for wearing through cables isn't super common, but at least for me personally, I find wireless more reliable for that reason.
    - LunaSea 3y ago
      > I've had to replace my wired headphone cable 3 times in the last 5 years due to wear, unexpectedly each time. I still use them because my current AirPods don't last a full work day, but I'll probably switch to AirPods Max next refresh. How many cables are you able to buy for the price of a pair of air pods with broken batteries?
      - cameronh90 3y ago
        My headphones use a proprietary interface on the headphone side so each replacement costs £20. I’ve never had an AirPod battery go bad, but apparently they replace them for £50 (or free in the first 2 years with AppleCare+). However the main issue isn’t the cost, it’s the fact that I suddenly don’t have a working headphone until I get a new cable.

I don't think we've cracked the design yet for no wire between the device and the earphones. I have the Shure BT2 set and I would list my relationship as "I tolerate them". It dangles, and if I wear a coat with a metal zipper it has connection issues when my phone is in my pocket. I'm not convinced the new separate ones are better. Behind the head may still be the better option, and sliding them down around your neck when you need to be social ticks a lot of checkboxes for me as well.

kuchenbecker 3y ago
I feel like me and everyone I know exclusively use wireless but the Internet would have me believe I'm weird.
- hinkley 3y ago
  There’s something about having two independent Bluetooth headphones that makes them much more than twice as likely to get lost. And I suspect that part of it is having both ears blocked and thus needing to take one out much more frequently. Also there are a disproportionate number of tech people who have ADHD, and multiple small objects do not just have a high probability of getting lost, they have a virtual guarantee of doing so. Multiple times before they are lost forever.

wilg 3y ago

You may not be in the market for wireless headphones then!

doug_durham 3y ago

Craze??? Wireless has been the standard for portable electronics for almost 20 years. It’s the norm. I could never go back to wired. Too bulky, unreliable, and fragile.

Grazester 3y ago
Unreliable compared to wireless? ... right.
- bmicraft 3y ago
  Nope, I've had plenty of unreliable wired in-ear headphones. When used like the wireless ones of today they lasted a couple of years at most before the cable inevitable breaks (usually near the 3.5mm connector) from always moving
  - hollandheese 3y ago
    That's why you get IEMs with replaceable cables.
- cameronh90 3y ago
  I've had to replace my wired headphone cable 3 times in the last 5 years due to wear, unexpectedly each time. I still use them because my current AirPods don't last a full work day, but I'll probably switch to AirPods Max next refresh. I suspect my particular penchant for wearing through cables isn't super common, but at least for me personally, I find wireless more reliable for that reason.
  - LunaSea 3y ago
    > I've had to replace my wired headphone cable 3 times in the last 5 years due to wear, unexpectedly each time. I still use them because my current AirPods don't last a full work day, but I'll probably switch to AirPods Max next refresh. How many cables are you able to buy for the price of a pair of air pods with broken batteries?
    - cameronh90 3y ago
      My headphones use a proprietary interface on the headphone side so each replacement costs £20. I’ve never had an AirPod battery go bad, but apparently they replace them for £50 (or free in the first 2 years with AppleCare+). However the main issue isn’t the cost, it’s the fact that I suddenly don’t have a working headphone until I get a new cable.