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So they finally seemed to have come up with their original design after 3 years of selling non-repairable TWS earbuds, great. I genuinely appreciate that they a
by ponorin 3y ago
So they finally seemed to have come up with their original design after 3 years of selling non-repairable TWS earbuds, great. I genuinely appreciate that they are trying to give users more sustainable options. Perhaps they can walk back the decision to remove the headphone jack as well so that people can use wired headphones directly which doesn't use battery in the first place.
- orthecreedence 3y agoI don't really consider new devices that don't have headphone jacks. This wireless-everything craze is so obnoxious.
- hinkley 3y agoI don't think we've cracked the design yet for no wire between the device and the earphones. I have the Shure BT2 set and I would list my relationship as "I tolerate them". It dangles, and if I wear a coat with a metal zipper it has connection issues when my phone is in my pocket. I'm not convinced the new separate ones are better. Behind the head may still be the better option, and sliding them down around your neck when you need to be social ticks a lot of checkboxes for me as well.
- kuchenbecker 3y agoI feel like me and everyone I know exclusively use wireless but the Internet would have me believe I'm weird.
- hinkley 3y agoThere’s something about having two independent Bluetooth headphones that makes them much more than twice as likely to get lost. And I suspect that part of it is having both ears blocked and thus needing to take one out much more frequently. Also there are a disproportionate number of tech people who have ADHD, and multiple small objects do not just have a high probability of getting lost, they have a virtual guarantee of doing so. Multiple times before they are lost forever.
- wilg 3y agoYou may not be in the market for wireless headphones then!
- doug_durham 3y agoCraze??? Wireless has been the standard for portable electronics for almost 20 years. It’s the norm. I could never go back to wired. Too bulky, unreliable, and fragile.
- Grazester 3y agoUnreliable compared to wireless? ... right.
- bmicraft 3y agoNope, I've had plenty of unreliable wired in-ear headphones. When used like the wireless ones of today they lasted a couple of years at most before the cable inevitable breaks (usually near the 3.5mm connector) from always moving
- hollandheese 3y agoThat's why you get IEMs with replaceable cables.
- cameronh90 3y agoI've had to replace my wired headphone cable 3 times in the last 5 years due to wear, unexpectedly each time. I still use them because my current AirPods don't last a full work day, but I'll probably switch to AirPods Max next refresh. I suspect my particular penchant for wearing through cables isn't super common, but at least for me personally, I find wireless more reliable for that reason.
- LunaSea 3y ago> I've had to replace my wired headphone cable 3 times in the last 5 years due to wear, unexpectedly each time. I still use them because my current AirPods don't last a full work day, but I'll probably switch to AirPods Max next refresh. How many cables are you able to buy for the price of a pair of air pods with broken batteries?
- zer00eyz 3y agoPlease can we get jacks back. The audio quality on these battery powered blue tooth headphones is fucking awful. IM not a purist by any stretch, but a decent pair of head phones is a whole other world of music vs anything AirPods like.
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- Mo3 3y agoHm. I have Sennheiser and Bose Bluetooth headphones and found AAC and AptX HD codecs on highest quality settings (on Android in dev tools) to be really good and almost indistinguishable from wired connections. I wouldn't call myself an audiophile, but my hearing is pretty good and I'm sensitive to quality loss
- atoav 3y agoNot the parent, but wvwn if quality was decent. I have wired headphones. Good ones. And I just want to use them. Sure there are USB-C DACs you can add to your phone but meh.
- hollandheese 3y agoGet a bluetooth DAC like the Qudelix 5k or Fiio BTR series.
- atoav 3y agoGet the idea, but I take my phone for sport runs multiple times a week, including in rainy weather. As of now I still have one with a headphone output. The idea of having to carry two devices and getting the worst of all worlds (more weigth, the unreliability of bluetooth combined with cables) doesn't really fill me with awe and wonder.
- zer00eyz 3y ago>> Bose Bluetooth headphones ... AAC Funny that you picked these, I have had 5 different people tell me to try them, and I own a pair. I have some pretty broad musical tastes. If I throw on some modern, electronic music, or anything pop, these do a pretty good job. The moment I dip into jazz, into anything where the range between the quiet parts and the loud parts (read pre 1990) is large they just dont perform any more. No amount of EQ is going to make up for that missing range. The best example of this that I can give is Caltrains A Love Supreme. On something good there is a looming undercurrent in the track, the humming is alive. The track is lifeless on every bluetooth headphone I have heard. Hell even my Sonos speakers in the kitchen do a better job.
- wilg 3y agoWe don’t know if this is more sustainable than AirPods without an actual supply chain analysis.
- Lio 3y agoQuite right. Hopefully they’re canny enough to provide that. I love my AirPod Pros. They may not have the best sound but having noise cancelling headphones I can keep my pocket is transformative. I love that there’s no cable to pick up mechanical noise as it catches on things. What I don’t love is buying more Apple stuff or knowing their batteries can’t be replaced. When my AirPods break I’ll be in the market for these.
- Rinzler89 3y agoYou need a analysis to tell you that products with user replaceable batteries are more sustainable than those with glued in batteries?
- jdietrich 3y agoI'd wager that a small single-digit percentage of Fairbuds customers will ever buy a replacement battery. Very few earbuds will reach the end of the battery's useful life before being lost or damaged beyond economical repair.
- Yodel0914 3y agoIndeed. I go through a pair of TWS every 12-24 months - so far that has never been because of battery life. It's 20% dropping/damagingand 80% losing one of the earbuds.
- aix1 3y ago> 80% losing one of the earbuds Given that Fairbuds would sell you a single earbud, that's already an improvement over buying a new set, right?
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- ccppurcell 3y agoI didn't realise the fairphone didn't have a jack input. I had a fair phone 2. I'm slowly starting to think the company is a scam. My fairphone could have lasted quite a while longer but they stopped making the part I needed. I mean we need more things like this in the market place so there could be 3rd party but there wasn't any option (this was a couple of years ago now)
- raffraffraff 3y agoI'm still rocking an FP3, but the biggest issue is Android 13. It's great that they still provide these updates but 13 alsolutely blows on this device compared to 12. Everything is slow. I'd try Lineage OS but I have a feeling my banking app won't work, and tbh I'm done with all that messing around. I'll likely upgrade once the EU finally forces all phone companies to release phones with user replaceable batteries, and someone produces a phone that isn't gigantic. There aren't any medium sized phones any more. Everything's half a foot long.
- extragood 3y agoHave you messed with animation settings in developer mode? It helped me a lot when a previous phone of mine was starting to show its age. https://www.reddit.com/r/S22Ultra/comments/u6dstg/anyone_else_turn_off_animations_in_developers/ https://www.reddit.com/r/S22Ultra/comments/u6dstg/anyone_els...
- raffraffraff 3y agoNo, but I just turned off all animations now. Thanks for the tip.
- aidenn0 3y agoMy android phone will use any USB headsets which also don't need batteries. Does that not work on the fairphone?
- jamesrr39 3y agoYou can get/buy a USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. Annoying that there isn't a 3.5mm port on the phone itself but in the grand scheme of things not a huge inconvenience & life goes on. (I have a Fairphone 4)
- kemayo 3y agoIt's easy and cheap to get USB-C to headphone jack adaptors, so anyone who wants to use wired headphones can do so. (The Apple one is $9, and we know how they like to gouge on accessories.) I've also seen simultaneous headphone-and-charging variants for under $10. Personally, I could never stand using wired headphones with my phone, so I wouldn't want to do it. But the option's there.
- mananaysiempre 3y agoHave you ever tried to put a phone with one of those sticking out of it in your trouser pocket? The long USB plug ensures it doesn’t really work unless you fancy breaking your USB-C port. (Used wired on-ears and IEMs for a while, tried using an adapter for a bit, switched to Bluetooth over-ears recently. Appreciate the convenience, don’t appreciate One More Thing I Must Charge.)
- eric_cc 3y agoI’m surprised to see this is Still a popular opinion. I could never imagine going back to wired headphones. That feeling of my head being tethered to a device is not something I’d want to revisit. That said, they certainly make much more sense Financially. I’ve spent far more money on headphones since going wireless.