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> I agree with Stumpy Nubs on this. While I understand the name is not meant to be taken literally, I'd be curious to know the opinion of someone like Jamie Pe

> I agree with Stumpy Nubs on this. While I understand the name is not meant to be taken literally, I'd be curious to know the opinion of someone like Jamie Perkins who does actually have 'stumpy' fingers because of a woodworking incident: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZMe0QIET6g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZMe0QIET6g * https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8XEQ1XKYNDXTUhEZWcHAPZlpXBu__wui https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8XEQ1XKYNDXTUhEZWcHA... It wasn't with a table saw though, but rather a jointer: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jointer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jointer He now has a prosthetic hand: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu52UOeJAj8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu52UOeJAj8

hinkley 3y ago
I've seen jointer near-miss videos and the adult education woodworking class I took is even more terrifying in retrospect. I knew table saws were dangerous and assumed they were the most dangerous. At least with a table saw the fingers can often be reattached. Jointers and router tables just make hamburger. I'm becoming a much bigger fan of mounting an uneven piece of wood to plywood and running it through the table saw to get that first edge.
- huytersd 3y ago
  How? Do you have a video of the near miss or can you explain it? If you use a piece of wood to push down the top I don’t see how it’s risky.
  - hinkley 3y ago
    The common theme is that when the blades catch the wood and the hand is gripping it, the hand tries to follow the wood. If you get very unlucky the wood escapes about the time your hand is nearing the blade and momentum carries you in. For routing tables it’s the curved pieces that’ll get ya. Snag, spin, bzzzt. I believe my instructor suggested but didn’t mandate a two pusher technique with the jointer, where the left hand pushes the wood against the back plate and forward while the right helps stabilize. Less pressure on the hand with a vector toward the blade. Seemed safer to me.
    - huytersd 3y ago
      Ah yeah I see. I’ve always used a micro jig like pusher to push it down and towards the backplate to try and avoid that scenario.
      - hinkley 3y ago
        Pushing sticks should save you because the hand never gets close to the table. But those thin plastic pushers aren’t enough elevation. I think Stumpy Nubs has a video about how people (and how many of them) get injured by those things. I’ve never been brave enough to watch it.
gorkish 3y ago
Stumpy Nubs absolutely did once run his hand through a saw; by your ridiculous definition he is absolutely qualified to have an opinion.
huytersd 3y ago
I don’t understand how you can hurt yourself with a jointer (presuming you’re using a push stick and pad to push the wood down from the top). There’s no risk of kickback and most jointers these days come with spring loaded blade guards that only expose enough of the blade that the wood makes contact with.

hinkley 3y ago

I've seen jointer near-miss videos and the adult education woodworking class I took is even more terrifying in retrospect. I knew table saws were dangerous and assumed they were the most dangerous. At least with a table saw the fingers can often be reattached. Jointers and router tables just make hamburger. I'm becoming a much bigger fan of mounting an uneven piece of wood to plywood and running it through the table saw to get that first edge.

huytersd 3y ago
How? Do you have a video of the near miss or can you explain it? If you use a piece of wood to push down the top I don’t see how it’s risky.
- hinkley 3y ago
  The common theme is that when the blades catch the wood and the hand is gripping it, the hand tries to follow the wood. If you get very unlucky the wood escapes about the time your hand is nearing the blade and momentum carries you in. For routing tables it’s the curved pieces that’ll get ya. Snag, spin, bzzzt. I believe my instructor suggested but didn’t mandate a two pusher technique with the jointer, where the left hand pushes the wood against the back plate and forward while the right helps stabilize. Less pressure on the hand with a vector toward the blade. Seemed safer to me.
  - huytersd 3y ago
    Ah yeah I see. I’ve always used a micro jig like pusher to push it down and towards the backplate to try and avoid that scenario.
    - hinkley 3y ago
      Pushing sticks should save you because the hand never gets close to the table. But those thin plastic pushers aren’t enough elevation. I think Stumpy Nubs has a video about how people (and how many of them) get injured by those things. I’ve never been brave enough to watch it.

gorkish 3y ago

Stumpy Nubs absolutely did once run his hand through a saw; by your ridiculous definition he is absolutely qualified to have an opinion.

huytersd 3y ago

I don’t understand how you can hurt yourself with a jointer (presuming you’re using a push stick and pad to push the wood down from the top). There’s no risk of kickback and most jointers these days come with spring loaded blade guards that only expose enough of the blade that the wood makes contact with.