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Tesla Will Not Have True Robotaxi Release This Year

11 points by ZeroGravitas 3y ago

_fat_santa 3y ago
Is this a surprise to anyone? To me it seems that Waymo is the furthest along when it comes to actual full self driving, and those are heavily geofenced and just looking at the car it's clear they have far more sensors onboard than what Tesla's have. This is not to mention that companies like Waymo and Cruise focus exclusively on self driving whereas Tesla also has the overhead of worrying about building the car itself (and the obligatory "all the other shit Musk dreams up")
- pplante 3y ago
  I'm not surprised, we've been extending Musk's delivery dates for years. That said, I have a 2020 mX with FSD on v11.3. I use FSD almost every time I drive and am very familiar with its abrupt failure modes and capabilities. I had a newer loaner mX last week that had v12 FSD and it was a huge leap forward compared to my daily driver. So while I have zero expectations that the robotaxi is coming this year, their reliance on vision only seems to be working fine as they continue to refine the system. Waymo has a lot more sensors that I feel will someday be unnecessary.
  - drewnick 3y ago
    Just got the v12 upgrade. I can now do door to door drives with zero interventions about half the time. Whereas before I had to take over at least once every drive, typically at intersections. Still a long way off from robotaxi but this version does give me hope it’s possible.
  - bumby 3y ago
    >I drive and am very familiar with its abrupt failure modes Care to elaborate on those?
belter 3y ago
This article underestimates how much good a man in spandex, can make for Tesla stock price. https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a37359183/tesla-robot-human-in-spandex/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a37359183/tesla-rob...
qarl 3y ago
It is a bit odd that he announced the date for the announcement. Maybe the announcement will announce a later date for the second announcement.
faceloss 3y ago
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sonicanatidae 3y ago
FSD has yet to even achieve what the Tesla marketing states about it, and they thought Robotaxis would be a thing in 2024? FFS, even the term FSD is outright horse shit marketing. Look at the definition of the letters. JamisonLaugh.Gif

11 points by ZeroGravitas 3y ago

Is this a surprise to anyone? To me it seems that Waymo is the furthest along when it comes to actual full self driving, and those are heavily geofenced and just looking at the car it's clear they have far more sensors onboard than what Tesla's have. This is not to mention that companies like Waymo and Cruise focus exclusively on self driving whereas Tesla also has the overhead of worrying about building the car itself (and the obligatory "all the other shit Musk dreams up")

pplante 3y ago
I'm not surprised, we've been extending Musk's delivery dates for years. That said, I have a 2020 mX with FSD on v11.3. I use FSD almost every time I drive and am very familiar with its abrupt failure modes and capabilities. I had a newer loaner mX last week that had v12 FSD and it was a huge leap forward compared to my daily driver. So while I have zero expectations that the robotaxi is coming this year, their reliance on vision only seems to be working fine as they continue to refine the system. Waymo has a lot more sensors that I feel will someday be unnecessary.
- drewnick 3y ago
  Just got the v12 upgrade. I can now do door to door drives with zero interventions about half the time. Whereas before I had to take over at least once every drive, typically at intersections. Still a long way off from robotaxi but this version does give me hope it’s possible.
- bumby 3y ago
  >I drive and am very familiar with its abrupt failure modes Care to elaborate on those?

belter 3y ago

This article underestimates how much good a man in spandex, can make for Tesla stock price. https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a37359183/tesla-robot-human-in-spandex/ https://www.autoweek.com/news/technology/a37359183/tesla-rob...

qarl 3y ago

It is a bit odd that he announced the date for the announcement. Maybe the announcement will announce a later date for the second announcement.

faceloss 3y ago

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sonicanatidae 3y ago

FSD has yet to even achieve what the Tesla marketing states about it, and they thought Robotaxis would be a thing in 2024? FFS, even the term FSD is outright horse shit marketing. Look at the definition of the letters. JamisonLaugh.Gif