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> "Free speech" doesn't guarantee no repercussions for what you choose to say --- particularly when what you're saying is not true. It does in the abstract sen
by EMIRELADERO 3y ago
> "Free speech" doesn't guarantee no repercussions for what you choose to say --- particularly when what you're saying is not true.
It does in the abstract sense. It's about "freedom from government-imposed consequences".
- jqpabc123 3y agoThis deposition was in a lawsuit which asks government to impose consequences against Musk for spreading untruths in the name of "free speech".
- LastTrain 3y agoNo it isn't. This is a civil suit between two citizens.
- jqpabc123 3y agoWho will impose any judgment in this case?
- hn_acker 3y ago> This is a civil suit between two citizens. On their own, whether a case is civil and whether the case is between only regular citizens has nothing to do with free speech. The First Amendment applies to government enforcement of civil lawsuits. In the US, if I write a social media post "John Doe is a bad person." with no other context (opinion, not a statement of fact [1]), then my post would be not defamation and also would be free speech, even if my post were to damage John Doe's reputation. Defamation is not protected speech i.e. is not free speech. Elon Musk's party is arguing that Musk didn't defame Ben Brody. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Defences https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation#Defences
- Shawnj2 3y agoThe common thing in the US is “your right to swing your arm around ends at my face”, if you promote lies and people get hurt or die as a result you’re reasonably accountable for it.