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What does it have to do with devs? Those are business models devised by business people, some of them devs, some of them not. The article mentions enshittific

by tmcb 2y ago

What does it have to do with devs? Those are business models devised by business people, some of them devs, some of them not. The article mentions enshittification. BMW is offering heated seats on a monthly subscription [1]. If an average teams of devs was asked to implement that as a practical joke, they would certainly be able to do it. Some of them can't quite make the jump between that and the fact that companies do expect to make a profit out of it. [1] https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/14/business/bmw-subscription/index.html https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/14/business/bmw-subscription...

bathtub365 2y ago
Just because developers aren’t coming up with the business models doesn’t mean they bear no responsibility. You can’t go to work every day for a company that makes bad things, as someone making bad things at that company, and claim no responsibility for their existence in the world. This is especially true when employee mobility is so high in software. Surely if developers had a mature sense of professional ethics and strong personal values they would be sure they worked at a company that they felt aligned with them, or admit that they have compromised their values for a larger paycheck. That BMW article is from 2022. They don’t offer that anymore[1]. [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/7/23863258/bmw-cancel-heated-seat-subscription-microtransaction https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/7/23863258/bmw-cancel-heated...
- tmcb 2y ago
  That is not how I interpreted GP's point. It sounded to me as if they were saying that anyone in tech could move to other industries and make big bucks if the points in the interview were true. Thing is, even if the points in the interview are false, that would not apply, as devs are not the ones making the shots. Edit: btw, thanks for the heads-up about the heated seats subscription thing. I hope it doesn't make the point moot.

by tmcb 2y ago

bathtub365 2y ago

Just because developers aren’t coming up with the business models doesn’t mean they bear no responsibility. You can’t go to work every day for a company that makes bad things, as someone making bad things at that company, and claim no responsibility for their existence in the world. This is especially true when employee mobility is so high in software. Surely if developers had a mature sense of professional ethics and strong personal values they would be sure they worked at a company that they felt aligned with them, or admit that they have compromised their values for a larger paycheck. That BMW article is from 2022. They don’t offer that anymore[1]. [1]: https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/7/23863258/bmw-cancel-heated-seat-subscription-microtransaction https://www.theverge.com/2023/9/7/23863258/bmw-cancel-heated...

tmcb 2y ago
That is not how I interpreted GP's point. It sounded to me as if they were saying that anyone in tech could move to other industries and make big bucks if the points in the interview were true. Thing is, even if the points in the interview are false, that would not apply, as devs are not the ones making the shots. Edit: btw, thanks for the heads-up about the heated seats subscription thing. I hope it doesn't make the point moot.