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Good answers already one thing to add is that a runner build wouldn't prepare you for kicking power. Technique goes a long way but at the top level every tiny d

Good answers already one thing to add is that a runner build wouldn't prepare you for kicking power. Technique goes a long way but at the top level every tiny difference adds up and so not only are footballers doing a tonne of sprints, jumping for headers etc but they also need to generate power for shooting which benefits from mass. In more physical leagues like the EPL having some mass is also beneficial (unless you are Messi)

alephnerd 3y ago
> runner build wouldn't prepare you for kicking power Visit Lumpinee sometime ;). You'll be very surprised by the body types of winning fighters. Most of the Thai fighters have a runner bod, because of early childhood nutrition issues (most fighters come from Isaan, the poorest region of TH and started fighting as a way to make money in the very large illicit gambling scene) And the best fighters I've trained with are all avid runners. At Woodenman, the fight team would always run 6-7 miles every morning before multiple training sessions.
- djtango 3y ago
  Ha I train with Lumpinee winners! Point taken they do hit plenty hard and traditionally were pretty scrawny. I would argue though that their power is attained in spite of their weight and strength disadvantage. Panpayak comes to mind as a current scrawny yet powerful kicker. Nong O told a friend he was frustrated that he only got access to modern training habits and nutrition so late into his career - he spent most his training just doing press ups for S&C Compare that with fighters like Superbon who now do all kinds of explosive training. The Saenchai kick off with Wonderboy was interesting - Saenchai's kick was beautiful there was almost no telegraph and it didn't look like he gave it his all but he was "only" kicking at about 47k whereas Wonderboy was maxed around 93k and Sensei Seth hit over 100k. And that belies the physics of power - that its both technique and mass. I doubt Wonderboy or Seth's technique can hold a candle to Saenchai's. Put it this way - would you rather eat a leg kick from Saenchai or Rico Verhoeven? Would you rather get punched by Naoya Inoue or Anthony Joshua? Anyway comparing physiques - look at 100m sprinters vs 10k sprinters. Justin Gatlin and Usain Bolt vs Mo Farah. That fast twitch explosive muscle tends to be bulkier... And footballers def run more like a sprinter than a long distance runner

alephnerd 3y ago

> runner build wouldn't prepare you for kicking power Visit Lumpinee sometime ;). You'll be very surprised by the body types of winning fighters. Most of the Thai fighters have a runner bod, because of early childhood nutrition issues (most fighters come from Isaan, the poorest region of TH and started fighting as a way to make money in the very large illicit gambling scene) And the best fighters I've trained with are all avid runners. At Woodenman, the fight team would always run 6-7 miles every morning before multiple training sessions.

djtango 3y ago
Ha I train with Lumpinee winners! Point taken they do hit plenty hard and traditionally were pretty scrawny. I would argue though that their power is attained in spite of their weight and strength disadvantage. Panpayak comes to mind as a current scrawny yet powerful kicker. Nong O told a friend he was frustrated that he only got access to modern training habits and nutrition so late into his career - he spent most his training just doing press ups for S&C Compare that with fighters like Superbon who now do all kinds of explosive training. The Saenchai kick off with Wonderboy was interesting - Saenchai's kick was beautiful there was almost no telegraph and it didn't look like he gave it his all but he was "only" kicking at about 47k whereas Wonderboy was maxed around 93k and Sensei Seth hit over 100k. And that belies the physics of power - that its both technique and mass. I doubt Wonderboy or Seth's technique can hold a candle to Saenchai's. Put it this way - would you rather eat a leg kick from Saenchai or Rico Verhoeven? Would you rather get punched by Naoya Inoue or Anthony Joshua? Anyway comparing physiques - look at 100m sprinters vs 10k sprinters. Justin Gatlin and Usain Bolt vs Mo Farah. That fast twitch explosive muscle tends to be bulkier... And footballers def run more like a sprinter than a long distance runner