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"Yeah but you are clearly the same person as yesterday," I said. At this point Abi appeared to admit that she was indeed Charlie. "I was sad you blocked me," sh
by keepamovin 3y ago
"Yeah but you are clearly the same person as yesterday," I said. At this point Abi appeared to admit that she was indeed Charlie. "I was sad you blocked me," she said. I twice asked Abi "who are you?", getting no clear response, before she replied: "What are you expecting me to say? I was horny and I messaged you. That's kind of it." For want of a better phrase, I was now really creeped out. I blocked Abi again. But I was surprised by how violating it felt to have someone being so strange to me over my phone.
Omg, it's all playing on male psychology and sexuality. It's pretty fuckin predatory.
- Festro 3y agoDid you expect some tamer form of extortion?
- keepamovin 3y agoHuh, but what I'm saying is it's surprising to target male sexuality and psychology. And it's predatory.
- Festro 3y agoWhy is that surprising? And all extortion methods are predatory by their very nature.
- keepamovin 3y agoHuh, but what I’m saying is it’s predatory to target male psychology and sexuality.
- RugnirViking 3y agowell yes. I'm a bit confused what you're suprised about. We're talking about a major case of extortion. Extortion is indeed extremely predatory. The whole point is that you do something so deeply unpleasant that the other person is forced to do what you want. So yes, it involved deeply unpleasant methods.
- keepamovin 3y agoI guess I'm just surprised that people can be so awful and target you when you're vulnerable in your most intimate interactions and psychology. But I feel this whole line of questioning around "why surprising? why special?" sounds like it wants to dismiss or diminish how bad this is. Is that commenters like yourself and Festro are intending? Are you guys trying to normalize this? I think it's wrong to not be surprised. To hold onto morality and expect things should be different! Haha :)
- pringk02 3y agoHardly surprising at all. It's one of the oldest tricks in spycraft.
- keepamovin 3y agoSpies, liars and scammers. Thick as thieves it seems. I think it is surprising that people can be so bad, and abusive. It sounds like you want to say it's not so bad afterall. Is that your intention?
- FerretFred 3y agoIt also relies on the targets being gormless - no shortage of that in our MPs (leaders - I hate to use that term).
- hugh-avherald 3y agoEveryone has gormless moments.
- blitzar 3y agoNot everyone has top secret clearence and likes to compromise themselves whenever the oportunity presents itself.
- keepamovin 3y agoTrue. But Whitehall/Westminster has frequently been a den of iniquity, that's no surprise, right? At least to some extent. But most MPs do not have security clearances at the SC or DV (security check or developed vetting) levels unless their roles necessitate it. UK clearances are different to US. Being an MP in itself does not require access to classified information.
- keepamovin 3y agoI guess so, but I mean, believing in love and happiness and ... sex... is not gormless? I mean the quoted interaction is a pretty low bar. Probably a lot more sophisticated lies that happen. Just awful that you can't trust people like that, in your intimate moments you can't trust, when you're supposed to be able to. I don't think that's about gormless, I think that's about other people being awful. These liars and scammers.
- 01HNNWZ0MV43FF 3y agoYeah that is the "honey" part of the trap. Slightly different than e.g. an ssh honey pot
- K0balt 3y agoThat’s pretty much standard practice for espionage and extortion, at least during the last few centuries, and probably more. Men are known to be vulnerable to these kind of manipulation attacks, and the exploit is common in the wild. Since production support on humanity was EOL before written history, it hasn’t been patched. We are unfortunately stuck with whatever we can patch together based on reverse engineering the product and hacking in what we can sort out. It doesn’t help that forking and pull requests are total chaos, and there is zero consensus as to what represents the current build, much less the SOTA. It’s so common, in fact, for people to get together in pairs or small groups for recreational forking that the current builds are now in the billions, with no version control whatsoever. It’s just total damn chaos.
- keepamovin 3y agoHahaha, yeah man. Totally! Hahah! :)