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MapSCII – A Braille and ASCII world map renderer for the console

147 points by itherseed 2y ago

teruakohatu 2y ago
Playing around with that gave me a lot of joy. Would this have worked during the heyday of telnet servers? Or was hardware and connection speeds fast enough to have made this practical?
- ale42 2y ago
  Bandwidth wouldn't be so much an issue I think (didn't measure though). Wondering more whether the CPU load required to generate the maps in real time would fit on a machine from that epoch.
  - zamadatix 2y ago
    Based on cleaning up the asciinema recording it looks to be somewhere around 400-500 kbps averaged over the demo.
boxed 2y ago
Super cool! I do wish there were much better algorithms for ascii art. The best manual ascii/ansi art humans produced during the peak of that scene is extremely far ahead of any algorithm I've seen.
- tromp 2y ago
  For example, see Joan Stark's art at https://web.archive.org/web/20091028031410/http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/indexjava.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20091028031410/http://www.geocit...
  - boxed 2y ago
    https://16colo.rs/pack/mist1022/ATONALOSPREY-RAVEN_AND_SKULL.ASC https://16colo.rs/pack/mist1022/ATONALOSPREY-RAVEN_AND_SKULL... for a more extreme example
basemi 2y ago
> Sorry, you reached a full server, please try again. Retrying in couple of days, HN will release the hug by then
- deleted 2y ago
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panki27 2y ago
> Your connection timed out. But I get to see the lovely logo!
rOOb85 2y ago
I love stuff like this!
tonisherill 2y ago
Anyone else also looking around for more tools like MapSCII, this site frequently updates with other TUI and CLI tools with handy and quick install instructions. https://terminaltrove.com/ https://terminaltrove.com/ I can also see they have mapscii too which is great. https://terminaltrove.com/mapscii/ https://terminaltrove.com/mapscii/ There's also awesome-tuis as well which I also find very useful as well. https://github.com/rothgar/awesome-tuis https://github.com/rothgar/awesome-tuis
fexed 2y ago
This is amazing
aquir 2y ago
Awesome! Thanks for spending time on this.
polyterative 2y ago
cool
rastapasta 2y ago
Thanks for the kudos and the shared joy :) AMA, happy to answer any potential questions!
- freedomben 2y ago
  Thanks for this, this is such a cool tool! When zooming in, I get "renderer is busy" which hangs the map for a second or two, and I was curious as to why. I'm running it locally so it isn't network bound. CPU does spike (for process "gnome-terminal-server") but doesn't seem to get anywhere near 100% (for any core). Do you know what it's waiting on when it prints "renderer is busy"?
  - rastapasta 2y ago
    Even though it runs locally, it is network-connected to the tile server that provides you with the vector tiles (unless they are cached locally after their first use). You currently have to wait for the requested tile(s) to be downloaded, processed, and available in memory before continuing rendering (which is slow in direct comparison to rendering itself). Could be improved by continuing to render the zoomed features of the parent tile until its children are ready (triggering a re-render) - but for now, it simply lets you wait until then :)
baudaux 2y ago
You can launch telnet in exaequOS.com if you do not have telnet installed. (I am the creator) Open havoc terminal and type: telnet mapscii.me 23
lynx23 2y ago
BTW braille patterns, I wrote a braille backend for Haskell Diagrams: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/diagrams-braille https://hackage.haskell.org/package/diagrams-braille Lets you also mix text and braille, although the positioning is a little fragile.
girishso 2y ago
This reminded me of a quine by a member of the Ruby core team - Yusuke Endoh. Spinning globe in the terminal! https://gist.github.com/shime/f0ebe84ca42c33b51d42 https://gist.github.com/shime/f0ebe84ca42c33b51d42
tambourine_man 2y ago
It's so weird that Hollywood has trained us to think that a TUI is much more hacky/bleeding-edge/pro than a GUI. Back in the 80/90s the future was 3D GUI, today the future is retro. All this to say, very cool project.
- adamredwoods 2y ago
  The fun UIs that come out of Hollywood are also known as "FUI", aka Fantasy (or Fictional) UIs. https://www.pushing-pixels.org/fui/ https://www.pushing-pixels.org/fui/ Jurassic Park was using IRIX: https://jurassicsystems.com/ https://jurassicsystems.com/
NelsonMinar 2y ago
I don't know how to read Braille. Does this rendering work at all to someone who knows how to read Braille by touch? Or is it more using the glyphs as a form of visual ASCII-like art? I took a quick look online and it seems like actual tactile maps are using raised lines for the boundaries and Braille for text labels. e.g. https://www.aph.org/product/world-maps/ https://www.aph.org/product/world-maps/
ulrischa 2y ago
Interesting. But I wonder how one could use this with a Braille line?

147 points by itherseed 2y ago

Playing around with that gave me a lot of joy. Would this have worked during the heyday of telnet servers? Or was hardware and connection speeds fast enough to have made this practical?

ale42 2y ago
Bandwidth wouldn't be so much an issue I think (didn't measure though). Wondering more whether the CPU load required to generate the maps in real time would fit on a machine from that epoch.
- zamadatix 2y ago
  Based on cleaning up the asciinema recording it looks to be somewhere around 400-500 kbps averaged over the demo.

boxed 2y ago

Super cool! I do wish there were much better algorithms for ascii art. The best manual ascii/ansi art humans produced during the peak of that scene is extremely far ahead of any algorithm I've seen.

tromp 2y ago
For example, see Joan Stark's art at https://web.archive.org/web/20091028031410/http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7373/indexjava.htm https://web.archive.org/web/20091028031410/http://www.geocit...
- boxed 2y ago
  https://16colo.rs/pack/mist1022/ATONALOSPREY-RAVEN_AND_SKULL.ASC https://16colo.rs/pack/mist1022/ATONALOSPREY-RAVEN_AND_SKULL... for a more extreme example

basemi 2y ago

> Sorry, you reached a full server, please try again. Retrying in couple of days, HN will release the hug by then

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panki27 2y ago

> Your connection timed out. But I get to see the lovely logo!

rOOb85 2y ago

I love stuff like this!

tonisherill 2y ago

Anyone else also looking around for more tools like MapSCII, this site frequently updates with other TUI and CLI tools with handy and quick install instructions. https://terminaltrove.com/ https://terminaltrove.com/ I can also see they have mapscii too which is great. https://terminaltrove.com/mapscii/ https://terminaltrove.com/mapscii/ There's also awesome-tuis as well which I also find very useful as well. https://github.com/rothgar/awesome-tuis https://github.com/rothgar/awesome-tuis

fexed 2y ago

This is amazing

aquir 2y ago

Awesome! Thanks for spending time on this.

polyterative 2y ago

cool

rastapasta 2y ago

Thanks for the kudos and the shared joy :) AMA, happy to answer any potential questions!

freedomben 2y ago
Thanks for this, this is such a cool tool! When zooming in, I get "renderer is busy" which hangs the map for a second or two, and I was curious as to why. I'm running it locally so it isn't network bound. CPU does spike (for process "gnome-terminal-server") but doesn't seem to get anywhere near 100% (for any core). Do you know what it's waiting on when it prints "renderer is busy"?
- rastapasta 2y ago
  Even though it runs locally, it is network-connected to the tile server that provides you with the vector tiles (unless they are cached locally after their first use). You currently have to wait for the requested tile(s) to be downloaded, processed, and available in memory before continuing rendering (which is slow in direct comparison to rendering itself). Could be improved by continuing to render the zoomed features of the parent tile until its children are ready (triggering a re-render) - but for now, it simply lets you wait until then :)

baudaux 2y ago

You can launch telnet in exaequOS.com if you do not have telnet installed. (I am the creator) Open havoc terminal and type: telnet mapscii.me 23

lynx23 2y ago

BTW braille patterns, I wrote a braille backend for Haskell Diagrams: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/diagrams-braille https://hackage.haskell.org/package/diagrams-braille Lets you also mix text and braille, although the positioning is a little fragile.

girishso 2y ago

This reminded me of a quine by a member of the Ruby core team - Yusuke Endoh. Spinning globe in the terminal! https://gist.github.com/shime/f0ebe84ca42c33b51d42 https://gist.github.com/shime/f0ebe84ca42c33b51d42

tambourine_man 2y ago

It's so weird that Hollywood has trained us to think that a TUI is much more hacky/bleeding-edge/pro than a GUI. Back in the 80/90s the future was 3D GUI, today the future is retro. All this to say, very cool project.

adamredwoods 2y ago
The fun UIs that come out of Hollywood are also known as "FUI", aka Fantasy (or Fictional) UIs. https://www.pushing-pixels.org/fui/ https://www.pushing-pixels.org/fui/ Jurassic Park was using IRIX: https://jurassicsystems.com/ https://jurassicsystems.com/

NelsonMinar 2y ago

I don't know how to read Braille. Does this rendering work at all to someone who knows how to read Braille by touch? Or is it more using the glyphs as a form of visual ASCII-like art? I took a quick look online and it seems like actual tactile maps are using raised lines for the boundaries and Braille for text labels. e.g. https://www.aph.org/product/world-maps/ https://www.aph.org/product/world-maps/

ulrischa 2y ago

Interesting. But I wonder how one could use this with a Braille line?