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Back when I was a kid learning go, I was taught that the kick joseki (a standard sequence of moves, similar to chess opening) [1] is a bad move, and you were co
by bobogei81123 2y ago
Back when I was a kid learning go, I was taught that the kick joseki (a standard sequence of moves, similar to chess opening) [1] is a bad move, and you were considered trolling (and the teacher would not be pleased) if you played a 3-3 invasion [2] during the opening phase. These are all vindicated thanks to the AI and played pretty commonly nowadays. AI definitely helped eliminate many dogma and myths in go.
[1] https://senseis.xmp.net/?44PointLowApproach#toc6 https://senseis.xmp.net/?44PointLowApproach#toc6
[2] https://senseis.xmp.net/?33PointInvasion#toc2 https://senseis.xmp.net/?33PointInvasion#toc2
- chewxy 2y agoyou have to admit that 3-3 invasion is pretty annoying to handle. AI is way too aggro and people are learning to be as aggressive.
- falserum 2y ago3-3 invasion takes teritory at the expense of influence (future potential). I think I improved a lot when I stopped 3-3ing (it opened up different style of game for me) Noobies love 3-3 (I definitely did), because it’s kind of simple and familiar move. (Especially at the start of the game, when board is empty, there is gadzilion of possibilities and most of them unknown and possibly risky) If not discouraging 3-3, I would still recommend starting without it, to learn that way of play (if for nothing else, to deal with 3-3 invasions)
- lawn 2y agoI'll suggest that a 3-3 invasion is still a bad move for amateurs because they don't follow it up correctly and it may hamper their learning.
- Wildgoose 2y agoAgreed. With a 3-3 you are trading away influence in favour of hard territory. AI is happy to do that very early because AI can effectively destroy influence. Human players need to learn to enter 3-3 at "the last possible moment". That requires judgement.