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Right, your proposal is dumb. Most chemicals (including the ones we’re discussing) aren’t medicine. You wouldn’t give them to people to see how much it hurts th
by mattmaroon 3y ago
Right, your proposal is dumb. Most chemicals (including the ones we’re discussing) aren’t medicine. You wouldn’t give them to people to see how much it hurts them, that would be unethical. We do that with medicine because it might help them, so there’s a potential benefit both to the individual who is the test subject and to society. We’ve no reason to believe ingesting PFAs is of any benefit so what you’re proposing would be cruel. It would be akin to running tests on prisoners or dissenters like they do in totalitarian regimes.
And if you did give people the level of these chemicals that 99.99% of the population is exposed to, you’d see no real effects, because no real effects is what we see in people who aren’t exposed to really high levels of it. We see some very weak correlations that almost certainly have other underlying causes and literally nothing else. Which, again, is not to say the effects aren’t there. It’s just that they’re very small if they exist, and it’s really hard with no control group to be sure of anything with very weak correlations.
“Associated with” doesn’t mean anything at all. I can find a correlation between any two things if I look for it. That’s all this is. (And again, I’m not talking about the people who worked in factories with it or lived where large amounts were dumped into the environment, etc., that is what they got fined for and they deserve it.)
If what you’re proposing is we make every chemical go through clinical trials, that’s going to kill a lot of people both directly (lots of chemicals have little to no harmful effects if not ingested but are deadly if you do so) and indirectly (lots of people are only alive because of chemicals that would be yanked.)
This has nothing to do with shareholders, it’s a simple societal cost benefit analysis and you’re just dismissing any benefits and underestimating the cost.
You completely misunderstood my point based on your paraphrasing. Which is fine, that’s the internet for you.