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Fuck the USPS for allowing advertisers to bulk send junk mail to everyone for a couple dollars. It’s a daily chore to take out the mailbox trash before it’s so

Fuck the USPS for allowing advertisers to bulk send junk mail to everyone for a couple dollars. It’s a daily chore to take out the mailbox trash before it’s so full they start returning important letters back to sender for not being able to fit it in.

master-lincoln 3y ago
maybe you should instead fuck your legislators so they can make that practice illegal (getting adverts per mail without consent). Where I live it's opt out, so not ideal either but at least I don't have to put up with the trash after adding a sticker to my post box.
- pc86 3y ago
  You clearly haven't seen my legislators.
- lupire 3y ago
  Why not both? USPS is most prolific and polluting spam purveyor in the world.
  - SoftTalker 3y ago
    Yeah one of the biggest (if not the biggest) sources of paper that I throw away is junk mail. I throw away bags of it every month, 98% of it unopened. The environmental impact of the paper, the printing, the fuel burned to deliver it, must dwarf the impact of the single-use plastic bags I get at the supermarket.
    - gosub100 3y ago
      They get to send each house 30 lbs of crap per year at tremendous discount, but if you want to send a Christmas card to Grandma, you have to pay full price.
      - lupire 3y ago
        That's not true at all. It's class mail is delivered at extreme discount, subsidized by spam.
    - Forbo 3y ago
      I wish they would ban mixed media envelopes. So sick of ripping off the plastic windows on junk mail so I can recycle it, it's a such a waste of time and resources.
  - master-lincoln 3y ago
    because you don't shoot the messenger... I don't think it should be the task of the mail delivery service to decide what you should receive
    - aendruk 3y ago
      Sadly USPS is frequently the perpetrator. https://www.usps.com/business/every-door-direct-mail.htm https://www.usps.com/business/every-door-direct-mail.htm I’ve tried every opt-out I can find and it still doesn’t stop.
      - gosub100 3y ago
        It's been 20 years now, but I tried opting out of a prolific grocery coupon mass mailer. But the carrier was so used to everyone getting them that I just got the ones addressed to my neighbor.
  - gosub100 3y ago
    What I despise is the old marketing materials that portrayed the letter carriers as American heroes because they deliver stuff. Yet the vast majority of what they deliver is ads.
walls 3y ago
You know you can fill out one form and 90% of it will stop?
- bobthepanda 3y ago
  What’s the form? Never heard of it before
  - mikestew 3y ago
    Five U. S. dollars: https://www.dmachoice.org https://www.dmachoice.org I've done it, and in a matter of weeks the junk just disappears for the most part. Lasts ten years, and I think we're about due for a re-up at our house, as the junk is leaking back in.
JumpCrisscross 3y ago
> It’s a daily chore to take out the mailbox trash Return it to the sender.
- lupire 3y ago
  That's incredibly expensive. Bulk mail can't be returned for free.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > Bulk mail can't be returned for free True. It’s surprisingly effective, though. Another route is to fish around for their return envelope and send them a pretty leaf or whatnot, but that could just spur them into paying more attention to you.
    - gosub100 3y ago
      I used to gather up the credit card application forms for Brand A and mail them to Brand B in their prepaid envelope. I did so many times that Citi finally send me an intimidating letter from their fraud department asking me to stop. I didn't, of course, but they eventually phased out the prepaid envelopes altogether.
      - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
        Oh, I'm doing that. I previously confined myself to leaves, cat treats and bar-napkin drawings.
  - masfuerte 3y ago
    I write "return to sender" on the envelope and drop it into a post box. It doesn't cost anything.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      > I write "return to sender" on the envelope and drop it into a post box. It doesn't cost anything This technically only works for first-class mail. Bulk mail doesn’t have return services.
jdeibele 3y ago
I was going to say that you could do it for free, like I did years ago. But now it requires a payment of $5 to opt out of receiving junk mail. https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-stop-junk-mail https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-stop-junk-mail says it's free to stop getting mail for dead people. I was executor for my mom and aunt in 2017 and still get mail for them both. Turns out it's now $1 to stop that. https://www.ims-dm.com/cgi/ddnc.php https://www.ims-dm.com/cgi/ddnc.php Screw you Hillsdale College.

master-lincoln 3y ago

maybe you should instead fuck your legislators so they can make that practice illegal (getting adverts per mail without consent). Where I live it's opt out, so not ideal either but at least I don't have to put up with the trash after adding a sticker to my post box.

pc86 3y ago
You clearly haven't seen my legislators.
lupire 3y ago
Why not both? USPS is most prolific and polluting spam purveyor in the world.
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  Yeah one of the biggest (if not the biggest) sources of paper that I throw away is junk mail. I throw away bags of it every month, 98% of it unopened. The environmental impact of the paper, the printing, the fuel burned to deliver it, must dwarf the impact of the single-use plastic bags I get at the supermarket.
  - gosub100 3y ago
    They get to send each house 30 lbs of crap per year at tremendous discount, but if you want to send a Christmas card to Grandma, you have to pay full price.
    - lupire 3y ago
      That's not true at all. It's class mail is delivered at extreme discount, subsidized by spam.
  - Forbo 3y ago
    I wish they would ban mixed media envelopes. So sick of ripping off the plastic windows on junk mail so I can recycle it, it's a such a waste of time and resources.
- master-lincoln 3y ago
  because you don't shoot the messenger... I don't think it should be the task of the mail delivery service to decide what you should receive
  - aendruk 3y ago
    Sadly USPS is frequently the perpetrator. https://www.usps.com/business/every-door-direct-mail.htm https://www.usps.com/business/every-door-direct-mail.htm I’ve tried every opt-out I can find and it still doesn’t stop.
    - gosub100 3y ago
      It's been 20 years now, but I tried opting out of a prolific grocery coupon mass mailer. But the carrier was so used to everyone getting them that I just got the ones addressed to my neighbor.
- gosub100 3y ago
  What I despise is the old marketing materials that portrayed the letter carriers as American heroes because they deliver stuff. Yet the vast majority of what they deliver is ads.

walls 3y ago

You know you can fill out one form and 90% of it will stop?

bobthepanda 3y ago
What’s the form? Never heard of it before
- mikestew 3y ago
  Five U. S. dollars: https://www.dmachoice.org https://www.dmachoice.org I've done it, and in a matter of weeks the junk just disappears for the most part. Lasts ten years, and I think we're about due for a re-up at our house, as the junk is leaking back in.

JumpCrisscross 3y ago

> It’s a daily chore to take out the mailbox trash Return it to the sender.

lupire 3y ago
That's incredibly expensive. Bulk mail can't be returned for free.
- JumpCrisscross 3y ago
  > Bulk mail can't be returned for free True. It’s surprisingly effective, though. Another route is to fish around for their return envelope and send them a pretty leaf or whatnot, but that could just spur them into paying more attention to you.
  - gosub100 3y ago
    I used to gather up the credit card application forms for Brand A and mail them to Brand B in their prepaid envelope. I did so many times that Citi finally send me an intimidating letter from their fraud department asking me to stop. I didn't, of course, but they eventually phased out the prepaid envelopes altogether.
    - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
      Oh, I'm doing that. I previously confined myself to leaves, cat treats and bar-napkin drawings.
- masfuerte 3y ago
  I write "return to sender" on the envelope and drop it into a post box. It doesn't cost anything.
  - JumpCrisscross 3y ago
    > I write "return to sender" on the envelope and drop it into a post box. It doesn't cost anything This technically only works for first-class mail. Bulk mail doesn’t have return services.

jdeibele 3y ago

I was going to say that you could do it for free, like I did years ago. But now it requires a payment of $5 to opt out of receiving junk mail. https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-stop-junk-mail https://consumer.ftc.gov/articles/how-stop-junk-mail says it's free to stop getting mail for dead people. I was executor for my mom and aunt in 2017 and still get mail for them both. Turns out it's now $1 to stop that. https://www.ims-dm.com/cgi/ddnc.php https://www.ims-dm.com/cgi/ddnc.php Screw you Hillsdale College.