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Per your first link, the US is below the OECD average with a -13 delta from 2018
by CharlieDigital 3y ago
Per your first link, the US is below the OECD average with a -13 delta from 2018
- calderarrow 3y agoThat section is just for mathematics, which the commenter specifically called out. The reading and science are above average
- newshackr 3y agoAbove average seems like a low bar if the US wants to stay the top economy.
- CharlieDigital 3y agoParticularly so given how "wealthy" the US is.
- natnat 3y agoI'm not trying to say that the US educational performance is great, just that it's not terrible. I think there's a lot of room for improvement, but there's a narrative that US schools are failing horribly and that just isn't true.
- CharlieDigital 3y agoWouldn't you agree that "failing" is relative? Given just how much money the US has, wouldn't you agree that we should expect better outcomes? Wouldn't it be a failure that despite our massive wealth, we are below OECD average in any subject?
- dahfizz 3y agoWildly shifting goal posts from “worse than third world” to “above average isn’t good enough”
- shepherdjerred 3y agoThat is a _huge_ shift of the goalpost from "US is worse than third world countries"
- maxerickson 3y agoFor math. Above average in reading and science. There's also the matter of picking a definition for third world.
- Thorrez 3y agoDoes OECD include third world?
- natnat 3y agoThe PISA scores are below average in 2022 but not significantly so. Most countries have had a pretty bad decline in test scores due to covid, but that's (hopefully) a one-time problem and future cohorts will do better. I'm not saying that's a good thing. We're a very rich country and we should do better. But the US also has a lot of systematic problems that peer countries don't, like child poverty, that are likely a bigger cause of subpar test scores than bad schools.
- CharlieDigital 3y agoThere's a difference between "below average and rising" versus "below average and falling". The US, over this period, happens to be the latter: below average and falling. Merely focusing on "below average" without acknowledging the trend -- declining -- seems to be disingenuous.