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A lot leaning on “more or less”.

Brian_K_White 3y ago
A lot depends on what are the important parts. It could be essentially identical if it supplies all the parts you care about and don't actually care too much what exact form it takes. But if you require the same exact gui controls then sure, totally different and not even an answer to the question.
johnchristopher 3y ago
Yeah, it's not the same experience. And you have to get into tmux configs which is a hassle by itself. I am not a fan of terminal multiplexers, I tend to forget them and when the server crashes or reboot it won't replay/restart what I was doing in those tabs anyway. I just use them for long running jobs I am testing. I also don't like the whole tmux window/pane manipulation you can do, I'd rather have my primary DM to do that well. It's funny how tmux is downvoted in those replies though :D.
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- okasaki 3y ago
  You don't have to get into tmux configs. It's perfectly usable out of the box.
  - johnchristopher 3y ago
    (Here we go...)
    - lupusreal 3y ago
      I'm curious what your essential configurations are. I've been using default tmux for years, am I missing out?
      - lanstin 3y ago
        I remap the escape key away from C-a as that conflicts with emacs and I increase the scrollback size of sessions.
        opan 3y ago
        It's C-b by default, C-a is what screen uses. Maybe you copied someone's config, as that remapping is fairly common (or weird distro default? but seems unlikely). I'm personally fine with the default C-b and have always kept it everywhere.
      - 3np 3y ago
        Personally the only thing I really need is `mode-keys vi`, the rest is optional. I guess you want to configure mouse on/off depending on preference, if it differs from the default. Usually will at least change the color of workstations and desktops just to make it more visually obvious which tmux environment I'm looking at when sshing and nesting.
- kps 3y ago
  > I also don't like the whole tmux window/pane manipulation you can do, I'd rather have my primary DM to do that well. I agree, and have settled on `dtach`; holding a pty is all it does.
  - philsnow 3y ago
    If you want only the other half of it (terminal “window management”), there’s dvtm. For a short while I tried using dtach + dvtm instead of screen but I wasn’t really gaining anything
- bee_rider 3y ago
  How does it work in MacOS? Since some terminal commands are interactive (vim) and others have side effects (well, really, effects— rm won’t have the same result if you replay it!) I guess they can’t just be replaying/restarting programs, right?

A lot depends on what are the important parts. It could be essentially identical if it supplies all the parts you care about and don't actually care too much what exact form it takes. But if you require the same exact gui controls then sure, totally different and not even an answer to the question.

johnchristopher 3y ago

Yeah, it's not the same experience. And you have to get into tmux configs which is a hassle by itself. I am not a fan of terminal multiplexers, I tend to forget them and when the server crashes or reboot it won't replay/restart what I was doing in those tabs anyway. I just use them for long running jobs I am testing. I also don't like the whole tmux window/pane manipulation you can do, I'd rather have my primary DM to do that well. It's funny how tmux is downvoted in those replies though :D.

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okasaki 3y ago
You don't have to get into tmux configs. It's perfectly usable out of the box.
- johnchristopher 3y ago
  (Here we go...)
  - lupusreal 3y ago
    I'm curious what your essential configurations are. I've been using default tmux for years, am I missing out?
    - lanstin 3y ago
      I remap the escape key away from C-a as that conflicts with emacs and I increase the scrollback size of sessions.
      - opan 3y ago
        It's C-b by default, C-a is what screen uses. Maybe you copied someone's config, as that remapping is fairly common (or weird distro default? but seems unlikely). I'm personally fine with the default C-b and have always kept it everywhere.
    - 3np 3y ago
      Personally the only thing I really need is `mode-keys vi`, the rest is optional. I guess you want to configure mouse on/off depending on preference, if it differs from the default. Usually will at least change the color of workstations and desktops just to make it more visually obvious which tmux environment I'm looking at when sshing and nesting.
kps 3y ago
> I also don't like the whole tmux window/pane manipulation you can do, I'd rather have my primary DM to do that well. I agree, and have settled on `dtach`; holding a pty is all it does.
- philsnow 3y ago
  If you want only the other half of it (terminal “window management”), there’s dvtm. For a short while I tried using dtach + dvtm instead of screen but I wasn’t really gaining anything
bee_rider 3y ago
How does it work in MacOS? Since some terminal commands are interactive (vim) and others have side effects (well, really, effects— rm won’t have the same result if you replay it!) I guess they can’t just be replaying/restarting programs, right?