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These are the cases which Germany wants to avoid: "Scheinehe", where people get paid to marry and give the other person an "Aufenthalts- und Arbeitserlaubnis" -
by lispm 3y ago
These are the cases which Germany wants to avoid: "Scheinehe", where people get paid to marry and give the other person an "Aufenthalts- und Arbeitserlaubnis" -> allowed to stay and work in Germany.
There is quite a business around this.
- dpeckett 3y agoLets combat marriage fraud by making it a kafkaesque ordeal to get married in the first place. Big brain move, how many innocent couples get caught in the net, versus how many fraudsters can you realistically catch (organized crime has figured out how to game the bureaucracy, no doubt).
- lispm 3y agoGermany has laws and traditions around marriage. If one doesn't respect German laws, best to go to a country which works differently and stay there.
- dpeckett 3y agoThat's the beauty of it, people will leave, and it won't be the people desperate enough to commit marriage fraud. Anyway none of this is about respecting German law.
- lispm 3y ago> people will leave sure, why not? People leave for various reasons. People are free to go. > Anyway none of this is about respecting German law. Law and traditions. Marriage is a serious decision with lots of implications. It's not the bureaucracy (alone), which slows the process down.
- jll29 3y agoIronically, on the one hand, the government views marriage officially as a "contract"; on the other hand, if it is "just a contract" between two consenting adults, then it is considered fraud! It makes little sense. I think it is outrageous for a government to allege, or even just to investigate, particular causes for marriage unless one of the parties was coerced into it rather than wanting it out of their own free will.
- lispm 3y ago"German government" does not see marriage as a contract.