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Preaching to the choir. The chances of a driver reading this and actually doing anything are nil.

by cpt1138 14y ago

antidoh 14y ago
Maybe. I'm a driver. I read it. I learned.
- kabdib 14y ago
  This is incredibly off-topic for HN. However, I will add one more piece of advice for drivers: Take a motorcycle safety course. You don't /have/ to ride, of course, but it will probably be a lot of fun and it will teach you a LOT about your level of awareness on the road. (For instance: The MSF courses teach you to look ahead about twelve seconds. I'm guessing that most drivers only have a couple seconds of planning, if that. Similarly, always having contingencies -- "where do I go if that truck changes lanes?" -- and noticing little things -- "that rear-view mirror is canted, so that driver isn't even bothering to look.") Okay, back to r/HN :-)
  - antidoh 14y ago
    "This is incredibly off-topic for HN." You're almost completely correct, except for the "interesting to hackers" caveat in the guidelines. Even with the caveat, this is probably still off-topic. Except that a lot of readers probably ride. But still it's probably off-topic. Except ... I've noticed a lot of weekend posts that are both off-topic and interesting, and I tend to see weekends on HN as a brief relaxing of the rules. Which I like.
    - hughw 14y ago
      It was Bike to Work day, so it's topical.
  - rdl 14y ago
    The MSF course is something I would strongly recommend for anyone able to take it, rider or not. All of the people I'd consider good drivers have taken one (or are 20k+ mile motorcyclists), even when driving cars.
  - slantyyz 14y ago
    Might be useful, but I do notice (possibly selectively) that a lot of the motorcyclists where I live are dangerous riders. The young riders who seem to favor the racing bikes in my area (Greater Toronto Area, Canada) seem to be quite dangerous in their habits, whereas the older ones who ride Harleys and the like are much less aggressive on our roadways.

Preaching to the choir. The chances of a driver reading this and actually doing anything are nil.

by cpt1138 14y ago

Preaching to the choir. The chances of a driver reading this and actually doing anything are nil.

antidoh 14y ago

Maybe. I'm a driver. I read it. I learned.

kabdib 14y ago
This is incredibly off-topic for HN. However, I will add one more piece of advice for drivers: Take a motorcycle safety course. You don't /have/ to ride, of course, but it will probably be a lot of fun and it will teach you a LOT about your level of awareness on the road. (For instance: The MSF courses teach you to look ahead about twelve seconds. I'm guessing that most drivers only have a couple seconds of planning, if that. Similarly, always having contingencies -- "where do I go if that truck changes lanes?" -- and noticing little things -- "that rear-view mirror is canted, so that driver isn't even bothering to look.") Okay, back to r/HN :-)
- antidoh 14y ago
  "This is incredibly off-topic for HN." You're almost completely correct, except for the "interesting to hackers" caveat in the guidelines. Even with the caveat, this is probably still off-topic. Except that a lot of readers probably ride. But still it's probably off-topic. Except ... I've noticed a lot of weekend posts that are both off-topic and interesting, and I tend to see weekends on HN as a brief relaxing of the rules. Which I like.
  - hughw 14y ago
    It was Bike to Work day, so it's topical.
- rdl 14y ago
  The MSF course is something I would strongly recommend for anyone able to take it, rider or not. All of the people I'd consider good drivers have taken one (or are 20k+ mile motorcyclists), even when driving cars.
- slantyyz 14y ago
  Might be useful, but I do notice (possibly selectively) that a lot of the motorcyclists where I live are dangerous riders. The young riders who seem to favor the racing bikes in my area (Greater Toronto Area, Canada) seem to be quite dangerous in their habits, whereas the older ones who ride Harleys and the like are much less aggressive on our roadways.