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> speeding tickets > drug deals I can't help but think of how the world changes. Think of speeding tickets, until the 70's, vast portions of the US did not h

by m463 3y ago

> speeding tickets > drug deals I can't help but think of how the world changes. Think of speeding tickets, until the 70's, vast portions of the US did not have a speed limit. This changed during the middle east oil embargo with the introduction of the national 55mph speed limit (under the guise of saving energy). When oil supply stabilized and domestic and foreign oil became plentiful, it was not repealed. Now speeding tickets are common. A huge majority of people have gotten them. I wonder if the tolerance value for going after a speeding car might become smaller as self-driving cards minimize offenses and ticket revenue drops. In the same way, "drug deals" have led to civil asset forfeiture, causing lots of out-of-town travelers to give up their property, to the benefit of police departments. so... today's "speeding tickets" and "drug deals" might become tomorrow's problem for a wider cross-section of the population.

voxelghost 3y ago
>Think of speeding tickets, until the 70's, vast portions of the US did not have a speed limit. This changed during the middle east oil embargo with the introduction of the national 55mph speed limit (under the guise of saving energy). They did not have a federal speed limit. State or local speed limits were imposed everywhere. Although pre-1973 limits were often a lot higher than the federal limit. >When oil supply stabilized and domestic and foreign oil became plentiful, it was not repealed. Now speeding tickets are common. A huge majority of people have gotten them. The 1973 law was repealed in 1995. And the mandate of setting speed-limits were returned to state-level
- timschmidt 3y ago
  Nevada and Montana didn't have posted speed limits on many or any highways, respectively, until 1999.
  - voxelghost 3y ago
    Out of my knowledge area, but according to ChatGPT; >[Well..], both states did have speed limits, but they had sections of rural highways with "reasonable and prudent" speed limits, which were often unposted. >But they were not without limitations. Drivers were still expected to drive at a safe and appropriate speed for the conditions, and law enforcement could *enforce speed limits based on what they deemed reasonable and prudent.* So to me than seems even more open to abuse than the current situation.
ryandrake 3y ago
> I wonder if the tolerance value for going after a speeding car might become smaller as self-driving cards minimize offenses and ticket revenue drops. In a future world where every car is self-driving and obeys the posted speed limit, I can see states and municipalities resorting to trickery and “hacks” like declaring a speed limit that changes randomly and unpredictably, so self-driving cars have trouble adapting and can get cited. It’s not like they are just going to allow that revenue stream to disappear.

by m463 3y ago

voxelghost 3y ago

>Think of speeding tickets, until the 70's, vast portions of the US did not have a speed limit. This changed during the middle east oil embargo with the introduction of the national 55mph speed limit (under the guise of saving energy). They did not have a federal speed limit. State or local speed limits were imposed everywhere. Although pre-1973 limits were often a lot higher than the federal limit. >When oil supply stabilized and domestic and foreign oil became plentiful, it was not repealed. Now speeding tickets are common. A huge majority of people have gotten them. The 1973 law was repealed in 1995. And the mandate of setting speed-limits were returned to state-level

timschmidt 3y ago
Nevada and Montana didn't have posted speed limits on many or any highways, respectively, until 1999.
- voxelghost 3y ago
  Out of my knowledge area, but according to ChatGPT; >[Well..], both states did have speed limits, but they had sections of rural highways with "reasonable and prudent" speed limits, which were often unposted. >But they were not without limitations. Drivers were still expected to drive at a safe and appropriate speed for the conditions, and law enforcement could *enforce speed limits based on what they deemed reasonable and prudent.* So to me than seems even more open to abuse than the current situation.

ryandrake 3y ago

> I wonder if the tolerance value for going after a speeding car might become smaller as self-driving cards minimize offenses and ticket revenue drops. In a future world where every car is self-driving and obeys the posted speed limit, I can see states and municipalities resorting to trickery and “hacks” like declaring a speed limit that changes randomly and unpredictably, so self-driving cars have trouble adapting and can get cited. It’s not like they are just going to allow that revenue stream to disappear.