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> We don't appreciate its meaning anymore, but cash is literally the only anonymous payment method you can have in this lifetime, and people in Germany tend NOT

> We don't appreciate its meaning anymore, but cash is literally the only anonymous payment method you can have in this lifetime, and people in Germany tend NOT to trust any entity/company/government holding your data for no particular purpose. Exactly. This is the eperience from two dicatorships on German soil in the 20th century of which one ended less than 35 years ago (many of its crimes still have not been prosecuted). There still exist lots of contemporary witnesses who can tell you what being potentially be surveilled means in the day-to-day life.

fabianholzer 3y ago
> This is the eperience from two dicatorships on German soil in the 20th century of which one ended less than 25 years ago In comparison to the NSDAP and SED, I think calling the 15 years of CDU government under Helmut Kohl (which actually ended a bit over 25 years ago) a dictatorship is a bit too harsh... /s
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago
  > I think calling the 15 years of CDU government under Helmut Kohl I fixed my mistake. :-)
run414 3y ago
Didn't Germany have 3 dictatorships in the 20th century? East Germany (ended in 1990), Third Reich (ended in 1945), German Monarchy (ended in 1918)
- Tainnor 3y ago
  I'm not used to people calling monarchies dictatorships, even though they are in some ways similar. Until 1918, many states in Europe were monarchies.
  - cess11 3y ago
    Calling Saudi Arabia a dictatorship is unfamiliar to you?
    - Tainnor 3y ago
      Yes. And in any case, that wasn't the point. I haven't seen anybody refer to pre-WWI European monarchies as "dictatorships".
      - cess11 3y ago
        Right. Funny way to point out treaty of Darin as a breaking point.
        Tainnor 3y ago
        No idea what your point is. The German empire wasn't a dictatorship, if you want to claim otherwise, find me a credible source that says so.
mk89 3y ago
I heard of people being sent ... far away ... just because of jealous neighbors spying on you. That's some level of f** up. No wonder that cash is the only accepted payment method in a world that tries at all costs to sneak into your private stuff.

fabianholzer 3y ago

> This is the eperience from two dicatorships on German soil in the 20th century of which one ended less than 25 years ago In comparison to the NSDAP and SED, I think calling the 15 years of CDU government under Helmut Kohl (which actually ended a bit over 25 years ago) a dictatorship is a bit too harsh... /s

aleph_minus_one 3y ago
> I think calling the 15 years of CDU government under Helmut Kohl I fixed my mistake. :-)

run414 3y ago

Didn't Germany have 3 dictatorships in the 20th century? East Germany (ended in 1990), Third Reich (ended in 1945), German Monarchy (ended in 1918)

Tainnor 3y ago
I'm not used to people calling monarchies dictatorships, even though they are in some ways similar. Until 1918, many states in Europe were monarchies.
- cess11 3y ago
  Calling Saudi Arabia a dictatorship is unfamiliar to you?
  - Tainnor 3y ago
    Yes. And in any case, that wasn't the point. I haven't seen anybody refer to pre-WWI European monarchies as "dictatorships".
    - cess11 3y ago
      Right. Funny way to point out treaty of Darin as a breaking point.
      - Tainnor 3y ago
        No idea what your point is. The German empire wasn't a dictatorship, if you want to claim otherwise, find me a credible source that says so.

mk89 3y ago

I heard of people being sent ... far away ... just because of jealous neighbors spying on you. That's some level of f** up. No wonder that cash is the only accepted payment method in a world that tries at all costs to sneak into your private stuff.