My point is kind of exactly that, it's agreeable and it's better than nothing so people don't feel like it's worth complaining about. What about the streets bet

My point is kind of exactly that, it's agreeable and it's better than nothing so people don't feel like it's worth complaining about. What about the streets between transit hubs and off of main thoroughfares? They get at most fourplexes, pretty inoffensive. So yes, build and auto upzone the transit stations for people who'd otherwise live somewhere else and arbitrarily live where they'll commute elsewhere and come home, but that just extends downtown for the rich people who'd otherwise be there in this awful compromise. I live about 15 mins walk from the train, and don't own a vehicle, but everyone who doesn't own a $2m house lives in the basements of those houses, or in the apartments that tend to just be on the main thoroughfares subject to apparently unavoidable car noise anyway. If you didn't commute downtown, would you feel like only being able to live next to a bus exchange would be suitable?