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> Throughout the years, apple consistently delivers great design. They seem to always define (or at least popularize) a new trend, which then storms the world a

by 38 3y ago

> Throughout the years, apple consistently delivers great design. They seem to always define (or at least popularize) a new trend, which then storms the world and everyone copies it To the loss of everyone. This is the same company that introduced disappearing scrollbars, just one of many dumb design decisions. What modern design seems to forget, is that at the end of the day, people actually want to USE the interface, not just look at it.

simonklitj 3y ago
I don’t disagree in principle. But people also have to look at the interface while using it. There’s a balance, for sure, but strict utilitarian design is a no for me.
collias 3y ago
Why not both?
tredre3 3y ago
Disappearing scrollbars on the desktop is the bane of my existence. Gnome is unusable to me for this reason (it can be worked around but it doesn't always work and I don't want to fight my OS).
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deergomoo 3y ago
It’s quite ironic that we have bigger, higher resolution screens than ever before, and yet we have eschewed visible controls and detail/texture in favour of minimalism and flat design. I get why: design trends from mobile have moved upwards to desktops. But man, I find myself missing Leopard-era macOS design a lot lately.
- theandrewbailey 3y ago
  I think of modern flat design as a reaction to the opulent skeuomorphism that had gone too far 10 years ago. My problem is that I hate the flatness, and liked more of the older interfaces. If I had the option of looking at Windows 95-style interfaces forever instead of whatever we have now, I'd go with Windows 95. Oh wait: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95 https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95
nozzlegear 3y ago
Apple also introduced an accessibility setting with the disappearing sidebar that forces all apps on macOS to show the sidebar at all times. I use it [1], it’s great. It’s not Apple’s fault that designers on other platforms copy their designs but not their accessibility. [1] And yes, because I use it, I obviously agree that the design is one of those classic “form over function” things that shouldn’t have happened in the first place.

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simonklitj 3y ago

I don’t disagree in principle. But people also have to look at the interface while using it. There’s a balance, for sure, but strict utilitarian design is a no for me.

collias 3y ago

Why not both?

tredre3 3y ago

Disappearing scrollbars on the desktop is the bane of my existence. Gnome is unusable to me for this reason (it can be worked around but it doesn't always work and I don't want to fight my OS).

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deergomoo 3y ago

It’s quite ironic that we have bigger, higher resolution screens than ever before, and yet we have eschewed visible controls and detail/texture in favour of minimalism and flat design. I get why: design trends from mobile have moved upwards to desktops. But man, I find myself missing Leopard-era macOS design a lot lately.

theandrewbailey 3y ago
I think of modern flat design as a reaction to the opulent skeuomorphism that had gone too far 10 years ago. My problem is that I hate the flatness, and liked more of the older interfaces. If I had the option of looking at Windows 95-style interfaces forever instead of whatever we have now, I'd go with Windows 95. Oh wait: https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95 https://github.com/grassmunk/Chicago95

nozzlegear 3y ago

Apple also introduced an accessibility setting with the disappearing sidebar that forces all apps on macOS to show the sidebar at all times. I use it [1], it’s great. It’s not Apple’s fault that designers on other platforms copy their designs but not their accessibility. [1] And yes, because I use it, I obviously agree that the design is one of those classic “form over function” things that shouldn’t have happened in the first place.