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I just started using teams at my new job, can someone tell me why it's so bad? It seems perfectly adequate to me.

vundercind 3y ago
It’s horrifyingly bloated but my main complaint is that you can’t put a normal-ass chat in a “Team”. Instead Teams themselves are stuck with this super-weird forum-in-a-chat-UI paradigm that makes them nearly useless except for announcement-type interactions, and not even very good for that. This pushes things into ad-hoc or meeting-connected chats, which encourages siloing. This makes it absolute poison for remote work. I think the rest of it’s probably a lot worse if your org isn’t all-in on a ton of other Microsoft stuff, but mine is. Also I ignore lots of it (it’s easy to lose shit in it anyway so I don’t really trust it, but I find that’s true of lots of “productivity” programs—including most project management systems) so maybe all the parts I don’t use are terrible.
- culopatin 3y ago
  I hate everything about how chats are organized in teams. From the chat announcements from meetings I didn’t join. Meeting chats mixed with my individual chats. Channel chats where you’re often accidentally starting a new thread. Why meeting chat in chat window but not channel threads?
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    If you want one less annoyance in your list open the Teams settings -> Notifications and activity -> Meeting chat notifications and change it to "Mute until I join or send a message".
rad_gruchalski 3y ago
It’s because it integrates with the whole group policy management system and it always checks with those policies as you switch from one thing to another.
kyriakos 3y ago
Chat experience could be a lot better. Performance used to be way worse before switching to webview2. Call functionality is good though.
zamadatix 3y ago
I agree Teams is fully adequate, there is much more crap software I'd rather not use before I'd be worrying about Teams not being good enough. That said it's a bit embarrassing how "adequate" it is considering how long it has been around. Why are team channels so limited to one jank form? Why can't meeting content be separated into a separate section? Why can't I convert a group chat into a Team without starting from scratch? Why is search so hard to use?
sirspacey 3y ago
Give it a few weeks. - crashes weekly, often down multiple times - randomly slow to load, frustrating when trying to quickly respond (the point of chat) - Video quality/stability is poor compared to Zoom But maybe you’ll get lucky.

It’s horrifyingly bloated but my main complaint is that you can’t put a normal-ass chat in a “Team”. Instead Teams themselves are stuck with this super-weird forum-in-a-chat-UI paradigm that makes them nearly useless except for announcement-type interactions, and not even very good for that. This pushes things into ad-hoc or meeting-connected chats, which encourages siloing. This makes it absolute poison for remote work. I think the rest of it’s probably a lot worse if your org isn’t all-in on a ton of other Microsoft stuff, but mine is. Also I ignore lots of it (it’s easy to lose shit in it anyway so I don’t really trust it, but I find that’s true of lots of “productivity” programs—including most project management systems) so maybe all the parts I don’t use are terrible.

culopatin 3y ago
I hate everything about how chats are organized in teams. From the chat announcements from meetings I didn’t join. Meeting chats mixed with my individual chats. Channel chats where you’re often accidentally starting a new thread. Why meeting chat in chat window but not channel threads?
- zamadatix 3y ago
  If you want one less annoyance in your list open the Teams settings -> Notifications and activity -> Meeting chat notifications and change it to "Mute until I join or send a message".

rad_gruchalski 3y ago

It’s because it integrates with the whole group policy management system and it always checks with those policies as you switch from one thing to another.

kyriakos 3y ago

Chat experience could be a lot better. Performance used to be way worse before switching to webview2. Call functionality is good though.

zamadatix 3y ago

I agree Teams is fully adequate, there is much more crap software I'd rather not use before I'd be worrying about Teams not being good enough. That said it's a bit embarrassing how "adequate" it is considering how long it has been around. Why are team channels so limited to one jank form? Why can't meeting content be separated into a separate section? Why can't I convert a group chat into a Team without starting from scratch? Why is search so hard to use?

sirspacey 3y ago

Give it a few weeks. - crashes weekly, often down multiple times - randomly slow to load, frustrating when trying to quickly respond (the point of chat) - Video quality/stability is poor compared to Zoom But maybe you’ll get lucky.