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I think you‘re digging into a philosophy question with the wrong shovel. You‘re not wrong, but OP is debating something that is fundamentally unmeasurable (as I
by danhau 3y ago
I think you‘re digging into a philosophy question with the wrong shovel. You‘re not wrong, but OP is debating something that is fundamentally unmeasurable (as I understand them). Science can only help us understand things within spacetime. Anything beyond that is philosophy.
I believe this is basically just the dualism vs. materialism debate on consciousness. Consciousness is a fascinating topic. There‘s plenty of paradoxes or thought experiments to fry your brain on. It‘s not just about the electrochemical processes in the brain. It‘s about identity, the continuity thereof, etc.
- wruza 3y agoThere‘s plenty of paradoxes or thought experiments to fry your brain on Is there a good collection of these in one place?
- addicted 3y agoThis is just more woo woo. Just because something is unmeasurable doesn’t mean it cannot be proven wrong. Just because something is derived from philosophy doesn’t mean it cannot be proven to be wrong in the real world. > Science can only help us understand things within spacetime. Anything beyond that is philosophy. Even if one takes this statement to be correct, it doesn’t imply that any specific philosophical idea about “beyond space time” is correct. And frankly even the “philosophy” of an after life can easily be dispensed with. There’s absolutely no reason to suggest an after life, or a duality between the body and “identity” exists other than “we would like to believe so”. It’s not just awful science but also bad philosophy.
- kazinator 3y agoScience can help us understand things within spacetime. Mathematics and logic within abstract, but rigorously defined spaces. Anything beyond that is philosphy, asthetics, politics, religion, ...