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> jumped the shark Genuine question - what does that phrase mean to you? I've only ever heard it in the context of television shows (meaning "has been renewed
by scubbo 3y ago
> jumped the shark
Genuine question - what does that phrase mean to you?
I've only ever heard it in the context of television shows (meaning "has been renewed for so many seasons that the writers have run out of ideas and have started forcing the characters into ever wackier situations to generate novelty") - and while it's intuitivve to map from that meaning to a more generic "has gone on for too long and thus become bad", the translation is fascinating. When you said this, were you intentionally using a term from another domain with a different meaning in the confidence that your audience could translate it appropriately, or does the phrase "jump the shark" really just mean "be old, and thus bad" to you?
(Asking from a purely non-prescriptivist non-judgemental perspective! I'm interested in understanding your thought process, not in judging or correcting you)
- Retr0id 3y agoWhile I'm aware of the phrase's origins, I've never heard it used to describe a TV show, only an unrelated field just like in this example.
- tylerchilds 3y agohappy days was running out of ideas and wanted to continue to retain audience attention and had The Fonz water ski and jump over a shark. silicon valley was running out of ideas, but steve ballmer famously delivered the Developers, developers, developers speech paving the way for capturing developer market share, for a platform with platform developers is no platform at all. there’s tooling that solves technical problems and tooling that business problems. a system has “jumped the shark” when there are at least five ways to accomplish the same thing and the audience was just trying to have some happy days on the tubes. my core hunch is that the ecosystem is a compile target versus a respected platform and that’s where i believe the shark has been jumped. the web is cool, if only we stopped trying to jump it and befriend the shark already. the long answer is, i’ve got a bespoke markdown like syntax i’m using for both a web publishing and screenplay authoring. i feel no difference between telling stories in interactive web formats or printed pages. maybe i’m jumping the shark.
- tylerchilds 3y agoi realize i’m making some claims here, so server side multi page demo: https://sillyz.computer/sagas/sillyz.computer/en-us/000-000.saga https://sillyz.computer/sagas/sillyz.computer/en-us/000-000.... if you press esc in the top left, you can play with that in the repl. if you visit: https://sillyz.computer https://sillyz.computer, that same text based adventure wizard journey as an embedded widget is the lower post it note. this is the folder i’m using for localizing that journey: https://github.com/tylerchilds/plan98/tree/plan98/client/public/sagas/sillyz.computer/en-us https://github.com/tylerchilds/plan98/tree/plan98/client/pub... any of the short hand web components dynamically load from: https://github.com/tylerchilds/plan98/tree/plan98/client/public/modules https://github.com/tylerchilds/plan98/tree/plan98/client/pub... full circle— i’m very much playing across domains with the jumping the shark reference
- scubbo 3y agoLove the insight - thank you!
- icepat 3y ago> Genuine question - what does that phrase mean to you? Jumped the shark means roughly the same thing as "lost the plot". In that, the current state of affairs has entered into absurd territories.