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This trend of "All You Need" in paper titles needs to die. The original "Attention is All You Need" used that title because it is literally true in their case.
by spencerchubb 3y ago
This trend of "All You Need" in paper titles needs to die. The original "Attention is All You Need" used that title because it is literally true in their case. So many papers just use it as a meme now, and it distracts from the true insight of the paper.
- donovanr 3y agoit's uncreative/tired but at least to the point. Too many papers are confused / opaque agglomerations of a year's worth of research shoehorned into a paper. At least with these you can fairly easily assess whether the claim is supported or not.
- ravelfan 3y agoObviously, more people are going to read it. It is like putting a stupid face on your youtube video to show how shocked and amazed you are at the content.
- soulofmischief 3y agoIt's equally annoying to see this comment crop up every single time someone uses the phrase.
- karagenit 3y agoAnd it’s equally annoying to see this comment about that comment about the paper every time. Recursion!
- soulofmischief 3y agoThis is why I come to Hacker News :)
- Terr_ 3y ago"All You Need Considered Harmful."
- benaubin 3y ago"'All You Need Considered Harmful.' Is All You Need"
- nickpsecurity 3y ago“Make All You Need Great Again Considered Harmful.”
- naruhodo 3y agoWhat if "Considered Harmful" is considered harmful?
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- jordanpg 3y agoI think more or less the same thing about the word "meme" as you have used it.
- spencerchubb 3y agoI feel I used the word 'meme' appropriately "A meme is an idea, behavior, or style that spreads by means of imitation from person to person within a culture and often carries symbolic meaning representing a particular phenomenon or theme." Paper authors use "All You Need" to allude to the well-known transformer paper, even if their proposed technique is not in fact all you need.
- jordanpg 3y agoYou used the word in the sense it commonly used, which is something like "often-repeated" or, more frequently, "shared a lot on social media." While I agree that this is consistent with the WP definition in the broadest sense, it isn't really what Dawkins had in mind in the Selfish Gene.
- spencerchubb 3y agoMy understanding is that a meme spreads through memetics similar to how a gene spreads through genetics. Ideas will spread that are fit for reproduction, i.e. communication. Oftentimes memes are powerful at reproducing, but in science we don't want ideas that are likely to spread. We want ideas that are truthful
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